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The evidence is the 10 videos all showing the same thing. ICE is guilty of murder. The videos are all over the Internet, what could they destroy? Other than the name of the murderer there isn't anymore needed to convict.
Bullet casings, for one. More than one person shot him.
The firearm they claim to have taken off him. The photo they posted is old and literally off Google Images.
Felony murder rule. If you take part in a felony and someone dies as an outcome, you can be charged with murder.
It's how getaway drivers for gas station robberies get convicted of murder when things go south and their buddy shoots the clerk.
Photos of the scene, work timesheets showing who is there, witness information...
I also would love to see charges filed immediately, but there's a reason they collect all the evidence first. Yes, we all saw it, but a good state prosecutor has to know at this point the federal Trump DOJ and DHS will certainly remove the case to federal court (even if it proceeds under state law) and will try to intervene to dismiss. They will pull out every dirty trick possible to avoid a finding of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. That includes sabotaging evidence solely in their custody or claiming the prosecutor did not do due diligence and then produce some magically exonerating new evidence.
If we want the charges to stick, we need to box in the DOJ and DHS.
Do you know the identity of the shooter? Cause they're not just going to tell you.
Why would they want to destroy evidence?
I thought this was "the most transparent administration in history"?
Transparent to them means they can be openly racist, sexist, and general xenophobic cunts.
What you are looking for is honest. They are not honest
I think they like to gaslight about the "transparent" thing, because according to them, Biden was not transparent because he wasn't doing a presser every five minutes. Donvict doesn't talk to the press to provide info, he does it because he is a narcissist.
Transparently corrupt.
As "transparent" as in "nothing to see".
Even if they didn't destroy evidence what is going to happen? Congress seems fine with the current set of events.
Wait... You have to have a court tell the federal government to not destroy/alter/plant evidence?
How.. how is that a thing? Should'nt that just happen normally?
Law has never really accounted for bad faith actors from the prosecution side. They most likely won't enforce it either. We're very quickly finding out just how much laws won't help us.
Yes.
But there are no consequences so they will ignore the court order and destroy any and all evidence they can, just as they did for Renee Good’s killer, the murderer Jonathan Ross.
It's not quite that bad. Accessory after the fact for murder can result in the same sentence as the murder itself. So some of these ICE pigs, they could face life in prison if they have destroyed evidence poorly.
Of course it depends on the details.
The fact that this had to be said is ridiculous. America is so fucked.
The fact that it had to be said, says that it's already been destroyed.
It's all going to get worse before it gets better. This is the cycle of history, we're in the pit of the trough.
So basically another illegal act that can be thrown at him only to be ignored: manipulating evidence. Although to be fair, hard to manipulate what is already out there, so I don't think it's likely he will.
Evidence isn't necessary when the law doesn't matter
The state police had a search warrant, and investigating a shooting is not DHS jurisdiction. Why didn't the police arrest (for obstruction) DHS representatives blocking their investigation & let the courts sort it out as they proceed with their investigation?
Because there is a 50/50 chance they would all get murdered and their bodies disappeared, too.
Well no. The disappearance is unlikely. But they are largely outnumbered, so if it turned into a gun fight, they would definitely lose. Well, the feds would lose too, but not as badly as the state pigs.
Is this not covered by standing law? When it is ever legally allowed to alter or destroy evidence?
Is the distinction more that typically this would be a slap on the wrist for law enforcement, but the TRO makes it explicit that there would be consequences?
It's more that the judge wants the punishment to be greater than the typical punishment for tampering with evidence. When the victim is dead the law tends to give undue credence to the statements of the survivor as there is only 2nd hand testimony provided for the prosecution. We should interpret it as a judge making a stand and vowing harsh penalties and the supreme court/appeals should interpret it as the judge making it much harder to overturn the eventual decision.
Why would this have to be specified? Obviously the law doesn't matter.
I would like to think that Judges, especially those leaning Republican, are starting to think that some people might start thinking they’re complicit. So maybe they want to keep heads on shoulders.
So the interesting thing will be that, look, the feds are going to ignore this. They have and will delete data and burn evidence. There's a name for that crime: accessory after the fact.
On the one hand, of course contempt charges don't matter to feds who don't care. On the other hand, the penalty for accessory to murder can be as long as the penalty for murder itself. So it's possible that a half dozen feds could get locked up for life, depending on who did what and when.
And there is no statute of limitations for any of this. They can never feel like they got away with it.
Probably waiting on orders and a stipend before they mysteriously change there mind and throw their hands on the air as there was nothing they could do.
I mean. That's just ignorant at this point...
Even the judges trump was placing for the federalist society a decade ago are turning on trump, and have been this whole term.
It's not enough, we need more out of court systems. But this is something, and it is real.
Like, shits fucking serious. We need to be honest about what's happening
They...will...do...it...anyway....
Fuck it's so frustrating watching one side pretend the rule of law still means anything.
But will that stop them? Once properly deleted, the judges words become worthless.