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No matter what it cost them. Look now. Imagination runs wild with ideas about what could be done to really discourage ICE. Wouldn't be too difficult but nobody has the gumption. Dont tell me any of my hundreds of ideas arent being done because they are unstrategic (though that may be). Its not a matter of strategy because there is no unity within the working class on that. It is a matter of disorganization, low aspirations, little pre existing infrastructure.

And the international work of the same type, exponentially more expensive and complex. Nobody would even dream of military/guerrilla aid being directed to the people of the united States by an external nation, in the spirit of liberation. We have learned from Palestine that Yemen stands apart from all other nations in its willingness to engage against the empire. And the reputation of Americans being diametrically opposite than the Palestinian people, nobody would feel enough sympathy.

Every nazibrained bureaucrat who ever fought to keep stupid sounding funding streams open to lib community groups, universities, arts, media and "political" clubs in exchange for setting limits on association, speech and actions, is now smiling to see their work pay off.

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I like the phrase “internal US counterinsurgency” for visualizing and communicating how the state operates against what it deems *internal threats. Very similar to how it operates as an insurgent against *external threats.

Infiltrating; disrupting; dispersing; repeating.

Basically using an understanding of the *threats and their resistance capabilities to cause targeted disruption with the intent of driving off/splitting up the resistance and causing distrust and breakdowns in its structures, which they then repeat (if they respect your intelligence, maybe at least with different people).

*latest fad

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago

I hope Yemen is remembered by history for their bravery.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

On the bright side, terrible conditions like this are excellent for the PSL and other groups like them. We got trump complaining about how pretty their posters are. This is the best moment to convince people to join an actual socialist party

If ICE doubles down and expands to cities like NYC/LA, the only people to blame for not exploding the movement will be ourselves. We can still overcome fascism

That's what Marx called the dialectic. Material conditions are shit, the dreamers activate, and let's mobilize

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

The magic of strategy is that it is all encompassing! If it's unable to counteract the counterinsurgency, then the strategy must be changed ;)

But I agree in principal on all of this. I just always think that we should take responsibility for our failures no matte how abstract. We aren't losing because the US is too good, we need to get better to win and haven't managed it. Taking that responsibility forces us to think differently. Though I agree with your despair here

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And the international work of the same type, exponentially more expensive and complex.

These past 35+ years have been an awful time for international socialism. The neoliberal doctrine following the collapse of the soviet union soaked up any left consciousness and lulled it into to inactivity. The infrastructure is non-existant, not just in America. The fact that Yemen is the shining beacon in this world to tyranny would be kind of unheard of in the first half of the 20th century.The only hope is that liberal decline will pave the way for a new era of leftism