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We have an extremely fucked food supply.
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Don't worry, just slather some beef tallow on your skin, have an undercooked burger, and enjoy reaping the instant health benefits.
I mean...those undercooked burgers do have a good chance of helping you lose weight...
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Not if we can’t afford groceries anymore.
The cheapest foods are the worst for you, unfortunately.
Unless they are grains and legumes.
Yeah I can eat pretty cheap with healthy food. Meat is the expensive part.
I only buy meat when it's on sale and freeze what I don't eat that day. But the prices are still crazy
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“Living with obesity” is a funny way of putting it. I’m living with 3 cats and obesity.
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Low quality, high carb food is profitable. Our western diet is built around a carb diet. While approximately half the population does fairly well, weight wise, the other half does not because their bodies preferentially store carb calories as fat.
That said I struggled with my weight although I was very active. Due to health issues I switched to a low carb diet more like the one I grew up with - mostly protein, high fat ( good fats like fatty fish, nuts, butter, olive oil and coconut oil), and reasonable amounts of complex carbohydrates. Weigh came off without exercise or any other effort. BTW, the calories in, the calories out approach is just plain wrong. Carbs MAKE you hungry.
You only have one shot at this life so why would you burden yourself lugging around 50 pounds, 100 pounds or more everywhere you go.
By what criteria are you classifying coconut oil as a good fat? The way I understand it fats going from worst to best go something like trans fat, saturated fat, unsaturated fat, omega 3. Coconut oil is nearly 100% saturated fat, moreso than butter which is around 80%. So if coconut oil is good then so is butter.
I will say it's somewhat marginal on the health benefits of unsaturated vs saturated though, so I will continue to use coconut oil but not sure it's any better than other fats.
Your understanding is the one I was taught throughout university but there is a competing vision where saturated fats aren't bad. The people who talk about the evils of seed oils tend to believe this. I haven't looked into it in a few years but there are lots of internet doctors/health influencers who can walk you through the reasoning if you are interested. I didn't find the arguments too compelling but I've also been bored of extreme diets for a bit so I may be biased.
Then there are those of us who embrace saturated fats (in moderation) and seed oils.
wow. stop with this crazy talk.
next thing you know you'll tell me that eating a boring balanced diet that doesn't exceed my caloric needs is how i maintain a healthy weight. because clearly that can't be it... it has to be a secret nutritional key to unlocking weight loss.
Any evidence of Health harms from seed oils are going to be from the chemicals used in the production of those plants, not from the oils of those seeds themselves. Just throwing that out there because the cynical motherfuckers in maha will not.
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Oh weird? Wasn’t there a huge headline recently that obesity rates had declined slightly for the first time in history?
Maybe that was due to the die-off from COVID.
And that's after US MDs successfully petitioned to re define the threshold of obesity and morbid obesity.
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I'm doing my part!
I used to be 330; I'm 5'8". I got down to 220 through diet and exercise. That's still obese. I did 10k on the Nordictrack this morning, can run a 7 minute mile, and routinely do full-body weight lifting including 10x140 chest presses and 10x300 leg presses. I'm now up to 260, which is even worse obese.
I don't know how to get to a healthy BMI and I know I'm routinely failing to get there, but I'm trying.
Talk to your doctor. BMI is a crude metric that doesn't distinguish between fat and muscle. For understanding population level statistics, this is good enough. But for individuals it can be highly misleading; particularly those that do strength training.
If you wanted to lower your BMI, there is a good chance that stopping all weight lifting would do that for you. But that would probably make you less healthy, despite "improving" your BMI.
@bss03 @MicroWave BMI isn't everything. It sounds like you are in great fitness. What does your Dr. say? How's the bloodwork? It's going to say more about health risks than only BMI
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why are you talking about weight when you should be measuring body fat?
Weight lifters weigh more because muscle is heavy.
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Lose weight with cardio first, then try to gain muscle.
I did. I didn't start lifting until I had my cardio doing much better. IIRC, I started lifting after I is a sub-30min 5km for 28 days in a row. But, I might have did some lifting before then.
Cardio is more my priority because the NIH recommendations are primarily about cardio, with weight/resistance training being secondary. I need to get my running / treadmill 10km to under an hour -- the Nordictrack^tm^ lets me do a sub-hour 10km, but I'm not sure it's getting my HR up quite as much as treadmill time. I find it easier to keep myself in "zone 2" on a treadmill with HR sensors in some hand grip.
Unfortunately what works for one person might not work for the next. I tried to lose and keep weight off for years without much success, but for me finally getting on thyroid medicine helped get it off for good. Turns out I was snacking because I was so fatigued all the time. It's a frustrating process to try and find what works for you, especially when everyone just says it's all calories in vs calories out.
you work out too much.
all that muscle needs fat to support it's energy. you need to lose both.
i lose weight quickly when i stop working out. both fat and muscle. also weight work increases you bone density.
basically stop being so demanding on your body and it won't have to 'bulk' so much. lighten up on the exercise.
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What are your thoughts on weight loss drugs like Wegovy and Mounjaro? Would you consider using them?
I haven't really looked into them, so I'm not sure. I guess it would depend on risks and side-effects. I do think they would help me consume fewer calories by reducing how much I overeat,, so they could be worth it.
I lost about 100lbs on mounjaro. I love how it has changed my relationship with food, and silenced the cravings for unhealthy foods. My doctor was supportive of me taking GLP-1s. Some people say it's not for them, but it has been wonderful for me.
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America measures obesity very differently to the rest of the world, way past the 50% mark for the rest of the worlds medical measurements.
Are we just using bmi because I have this friend who is a refrigerator. Short, stocky, all muscle. Bmi is something like morbid obesity back when they used the term. She had no fat weight to lose, she needed to gain fat. Or height I guess. Best clown and drummer I ever worked with.
that isn't the majority of people
i'm talking about my drummer friend not most people
If you doubt BMI (like many of the replies I got to my other comment), you can probably ignore this study:
Design, Setting, and Participants Analysis of measured body mass index data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey and bias-corrected body mass index values calculated from self-reported height and weight data from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System and Gallup Daily Survey using spatiotemporal gaussian process regression and an ensemble of annualized rate of change and meta-regression bayesian spline models. Surveys for input data were conducted using population-based sampling by state and by race and ethnicity group with a total of 11 315 421 US participants.
Main Outcomes and Measures Obesity prevalence (BMI ≥30).
So, one reason I'm concerned about my BMI (39.5 kg/m^2^) is because I'm making my country look bad. Tho, with Trump at the helm, my contributions to that effort are overshadowed.
It'd be cool if they stopped lacing all the food with high fructose corn syrup.
Incorrect. Fat shot drug is available as fat pill drug. They have or are working on children’s version. We will eat nothing and be happy. Also alcoholism will sharply decline
doesn't work unless you stay on the drugs for life.
people on GPL drugs who stop using them gain 70% of the weight back within six months.
the issue is lifestyle. americans eat too much and don't exercise enough. GPL drugs just make it so they eat less, but they still eat the same crap they did before so 2000 calories of hamburgers and fries (the small instead of the large). so once they go off the drug they go right back to eating 4000 calories a day.
the issue is that you shouldn't be eating hamburgers and fries regularly, no matter the portion. a lot americans eat a daily diet that is suppose to be sometimes foods. everyday foods should be bland and in smaller portions. asian and european diets are way more full of basic grains, veg, and lean meats.
american food system is loaded with junk that makes you want to eat more of it. lots of processed crap, fatty meats, and added sugar/fat to everything.
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