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An interesting keynote about hidden cost of AI Art by the author Brandon Sanderson. I might be a bit biased though, since Sanderson is my favourite author, and I am resistant to some of the things "AI" is used for, if not completely anti-AI.

What do you think about this?

Note: It's from the event in Dec 2025, it was just posted in text form recently. If you want to watch the video, you can do it here: https://youtu.be/RXyWtp8tuYY?t=1988 (about 15-20 mins long, might have to go couple of seconds forward or backward)

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Sanderson is missing a larger point: What do the audiences think?

If you give a whole lot of readers ten books, three of which were written using AI, and the readers can't tell which were AI and which were human... Do they even care?

I mean, we care because it's interesting. But if the readers couldn't tell the difference, then why does it matter? They were entertained, right? Assuming that the books were just fiction.

Does it matter because machines are now just as good as people? Or does it matter because now less people will go into writing as a career (the capitalism argument, not, "we just should have more writers")?

If a consumer is looking for good books to read that cover their ~~fetish~~ interests, and there's now 10x more books in that category than there were before AI... Is that bad? Forget quality for a moment and just assume they're all great because it's the future where all the kinks have been worked out.

When we don't need to rely on a handful of excellent, highly promoted writers like Sanderson to give us excellent stories... What have we lost? Anything?

Perhaps what gets lost is capitalism. Because it takes a lot of capital to produce and promote books.

New writers—even if they're fantastic—may never get the break needed to be picked up by a big publisher that has excellent, well-paid editors that can make a good story into a great one. However, such a new writer can use AI to fix their grammar and greatly improve their craft: their writing and the marketing necessary for people to find it and read it.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

His thesis statement:

Well, remember, art is not just the story. It is not just the painting or the sculpture or whatever else you love to create. It’s also the process of creation and what that process does to you. We make art because we can’t help it. It’s part of us.

I'm not going to argue that writing his novels was not a subjective process that was in itself art beyond the artistic value of the end product, because I've never written a novel. However, this art, if it exists, is inherently private and inaccessible to his readers. It is distinct from the artistic value they receive from reading his writing (or an AI's writing). So if Sanderson is right, he is answering the question "Why write if an AI can do it better than you?" but the questions "Why read another human's writing if an AI's is better?" still has no answer.

[–] dresden@discuss.online 1 points 11 hours ago

“Why read another human’s writing if an AI’s is better?”

I think that was the whole point, this is "the hidden cost of AI Art". AI (or LLMs) might be able to compete (or supersede us) on the end-product level, but it can't create "art". If you don't care about art, then the whole discussion doesn't matter, but then it will cost us our growth as humans.

CC: @riskable@programming.dev

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago

but the questions "Why read another human's writing if an AI's is better?" still has no answer.

Of course it does. Because the human creator was affected while creating it. What you quoted explains the whole thing.

Well, remember, art is not just the story. It is not just the painting or the sculpture or whatever else you love to create. It’s also the process of creation and what that process does to you. We make art because we can’t help it. It’s part of us.

I added bold because that’s the core point. Of course I would rather read something where a human was affected by the process of creating. That’s relatable, and the entire purpose of art.

You read another human’s writing because they’re human, and a human who experienced something while creating is unquestionably superior to what amounts to randomness. An LLM can’t think, learn, or have human-like experiences. It can only copy. Expression is the important thing, and an LLM can’t express.

AI can’t compete with a human’s passion or interest, and doing something with passion or interest is what makes something art.

The act of creation by a human literally makes all the difference.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn, you completely missed the point, didn't ya? Art is made by artists which are in turn shaped by their art. It's a conversation with themselves with us. Art has value because each step of that process shapes artist shapes audience shapes artist. AI art has no value because there's no conversation. Art has no intrinsic value because it is, at its core, a conversation. Yes, we've proven that AI can parrot this conversation, but it isn't adding anything to it. Conversations teach you about yourself and the person who you're conversing with, which can then change the trajectory of the conversation. When you converse with AI, it's just a shitty mirror that poorly reflects who are in relation to the collective human output. You can't learn anything about the AI by talking to it and the AI can't fundamentally change the trajectory of the conversation without the person it's speaking to doing so first. Which is why AI art is worthless.

Put another way, Brandon Sanderson's work is a conversation with novels of the past. It's a conversation with Herbert and Tolkien, but also with the cultural zeitgeist and the changing human experience. If you were to create an LLM using only what was published before the publishing of any of Brandon's work, you couldn't get that LLM to recreate the works of Brandon Sanderson because his works are fundamentally outside the parameters that the LLM knows and is therefore able to create. It can only recreate works within the bounds of its parrot material, not anything new.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the issue is that you think that an AI can never extrapolate beyond what humans have already written, then there's no need to even say "conversation" or worry about AI replacing human artists. If the AI isn't any good, it's not going to replace people who are, any more so than the multitude of unoriginal human authors have.

(I think that the inability to extrapolate is not an inherent limitation of AI, and I except that AI will actually be more capable of creating something original than humans are, but that's beside the point here.)

However, it sounds to me like Sanderson doesn't agree with you - he's worried that AI will be able to write things that readers will enjoy at least as much as the best human writing. The "conversation" that he's talking about is within his own mind, and his writing is a product of it rather than a representation of it. He's asking readers to respect the value of that internal conversation, but my point is that even if I grant that Sanderson's experience of writing has value, that value is inaccessible to anyone but him to the extent that it is more than the words on paper.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This is the problem that you're not understanding. You are attempting to remove the artist from the artwork and not understanding that one fundamentally feeds into the other. Brandon's internal journey from becoming a person who wants to write a novel to the person who writes Sanderson novels isn't some abstract thing that only he gets to appreciate. It's there, in his work. You can even see the change in his published works as his style and approach evolved over time.

You could craft an LLM to make the mountain of mediocre stuff that gets churned out, but the cost would be never having a great work ever again. No one would bother publishing if they couldn't get above the skill threshold that LLMs set, which would make the herculean effort that it already takes to write a novel to something positively sisyphean. And it's the job of making the whole novel that makes people capable of making the next great work.

And no, a prompt maker wouldn't be able to create a great work, since it's the marriage between your skill with words and prose with theme and narrative that makes something great. Since the prompt maker has no control over one, he could never master the other, nor ever hope to bring them together.