That comment also sucks when working holidays, particularly Thanksgiving. "They should let you be with your families!" Ok thanks, get out!
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If that person wasn't there, you'd still be open though. From what I have seen of people going in during a holiday, they are all overworked with no time off and cannot get what they need beforehand, leading to them being essentially forced to.
I've gone to places on holidays only because I knew they were open. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all if they weren't open.
At least some places like New Zealand have a surcharge on public holidays.
yeah but then if nobody comes in the first year, they might close for next year
Not to mention that many places take volunteers to work holidays since not everyone celebrates. And it's not uncommon to get a bit more per hour from it.
Depends on the store. I worked at a big box hardware store and every public holiday you’d have old geezers just milling about wanting to strike up a 30 minute conversation with you about some esoteric project they’ve been working on for the last six months while you’re frantically mixing four different customer’s custom paint colours and trying to point other customers in the direction of things that have huge signs already directing customers to.
It's a degrees of the same, they're lonely and would be telling their kids/grandkids if said family weren't also being forced to go to work. Next time you're run into one, I'd encourage asking why they aren't with their family/with loved ones.
Most of the time, it's the store being open that causes customers to come in. People expect places to be closed on holidays, so they check online. If the store's listing on Google Maps or whatever confirms it is indeed closed, most people will just say "oh dang, too bad". If it actually ends up being open then they go, buy their stuff, and then make a sympathetic comment to the employees.
I agree and that's how i operate. However the counter argument to this is, if a store is open and no one shows up at all then next year they will not open because there was not a single sale. Not sure how acurate that is in terms of corporate BS but that is the general counter argument i hear.
That's how the grocery store I worked at, Save A Lot, from 2014-2025 operated. Being open was based on the sales of the previous year. It also wasn't uncommon that we'd just close after a few hours if no customers showed up. It's what made me dislike customers on these days even more cause if they stayed home, I'd actually be able to go home early (or if I worked the closing shift, I wouldn't have to come in at all).
The catch 22 is that the companies are opening on these days to catch the customers that come out. People go because the store is open, the store is open because people go. If people consistently, collectively didn't go in, the stores would close.
Exactly.
"Stfu, I need my stat pay"
Yeah that's why, if I say anything, I just thank them for being there.
The entire economy can't just shut down because of some snow. Realisitically the most dangerous part about that weather is the driving, if we just built public transit, their commute wouldn't even be that different from a sunny day. If you dress for the weather you'll be fine.
But why can't the economy shut down for a few days?
In the past the economy had to shut down because of bad weather regularly, now we have all those machines and produce much more efficiently.
The economy is tired. It needs to shut down sometimes. :(
Have you hugged your economy today? ;_;
There are places that are snowy most of the time and everything works just fine. It really isnt that bad if you are prepared and have appropriate infrastructure.
That's one way of saying you haven't commuted by bus, train, or subway in your entire life, I guess.
Yeah, public transit is great for many reasons, but reliability in bad weather is not one of them.
Maybe you've just never got to use good, high quality public transit.
It's a region dependant luxury. Where I live, transit has tons of tweakers and unstable people. Especially during winter. The city doesn't bother cleaning blood off the walls for weeks after a stabbing.
I'd love some proper investment into transit and security on said transit, but I'm not holding my breath
In Hong Kong, after a Category 5-equivalent typhoon hit, the metro system was back up again within two days with apologetic announcements that some trains were slightly delayed due to debris on the track.
Probably not the best in the world, but I would consider my city's public transit network way above the average for what I know. It's lovely most of the time, just not at rush hours when millions of people have to be moved at the same time, and specially in bad weather. I'm not sure what your standard for high quality is but I'd bet that even the best one gets overwhelmed in these situations and it's an absolute hell to ride as well.
Edit: even though I think it is still good, It just came to mind that trains have been crashing as of lately in my country. So the quality could fall due to corruption and capitalism at any moment really...
Public transit suffers in bad weather just as much as car traffic.
Trains just end up moving slower, trees fall down on tracks. Busses are just big cars and need to drive on the same roads as the cars do.
Lol, you sound like you've never seen public transit in snowy conditions before. Unless you invest specifically in making that public transit resilient against snow and ice, it'll crumble as soon as it starts snowing. Here in the Netherlands, where we have good public transit but no good snow/ice resistance it all comes to a halt when it's snowing. Recently we've had a couple of days where basically the entire public transit system came to a halt. And not for extreme snow or blizzards, but for a relatively small layer of snow. It's simply not worth it to invest all that money just to drive on those rare snowy days apparently
Tell that to the danish public transit system shitting itself because we're getting a bit of snow tonight. In reality, there's a better chance of you being able to drive your car to work, than the train being able to go. Because your car isn't bound by minimum speeds, but if the train can only go 10 mph because of snow and ice on the track, it's just not feasible to run it.
Also on something like blisteringly humid 40°C days, where you're only doing inside service but tables insist on eating outside
Like bro, I'm a person too
It works both ways. When it's -10°C outside and you walk into a store where the thermostat is set to a cozy 27 and the employees are walking around with short sleeve t-shirts. You spend 2 minutes 37 seconds inside, and leave with your balls drenched in sweat.
Just make law forbidding people to work some days. Capatilatist will keep their shop open when they burn if they can get away with it.
I remember on 9/11/01 people coming into my job like that: "so crazy huh? Can't believe you guys are working. Anyway, let me get a half pound of potato salad."
"They make you work on a holiday?" says the reason they make you work on a holiday.
It isn't like they can send you home. I know, I know, no raindrop feels responsible for the storm, but the people who give half a shit aren't nearly numerous enough to get companies to stop this, even if all of them stopped going.
I don't mind as long as it's said gratefully. Like they hoped for a miracle and you're it.
My first self realization moment was a black Thursday. I said pretty much the same, reflected on it later as most neurodivergents do. And haven't gone to a black Friday/Thursday since. One I didn't need the shit, two if I really want it then I can wait a day.
I don't have much guilt over using a grocery store or gas station on a holiday. Retail or restaurants, on the other hand, I'll try to avoid. Not all businesses are equal in daily necessity.
The grocery stores in my country are all closed on holidays ...