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A widespread concern is what would happen to Dutch weapon systems if the Americans were to withdraw completely as an ally. For example, Dutch F-35 aircraft are dependent on American software updates. Yet, Tuinman isn't particularly worried about this.

"The F-35 is truly a shared product. The British make the Rolls-Royce engines, and the Americans simply need them too." And even if this mutual dependency doesn't result in software updates, the F-35, in its current state, is still a better aircraft than other types of fighters.

If you still want to upgrade despite everything, I'm going to say something I should never say, but I will anyway: you can jailbreak an F-35 just like an iPhone. (Crack it with your own software, ed.)

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[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I’ve been working in the Dutch tech sector for decades. My general opinion about the culture of Dutch governmental institutions, including Defense, is one of neoliberalism and technological opportunism.

Public officials are completely ignorant about technology, yet misuse technology to advance their careers by starting megalomanic IT-projects, meant as nonsensical solutions to help realize highly unlikely business cases, that will only be realized (maybe) years after they’d handed over the reigns.

All of this has caused governments to become highly digitized, with large pools of IT-‘professionals’, yet barely able to maintain and develop the digital infrastructure they built up, because of a catastrophic shortage of tech-savy leaders and actual experts.

The reason I mention this, is because Dutch public officials are generally both highly techno-optimistic as well as highly techno-ignorant. Its not uncommon to see them making claims that sound misguided or downright false to anyone who’s anyone.

My take is that Tuinman likely shared his comment in an attempt to comfort the public, but that it betrays his fundamental lack of understanding about the digital infrastructure that makes up the F35. And if Tuinman is being fed this sort of information by his subordinates, then I’m worried that the experts at Defense might not actually understand the infrastructure themselves either.

The risk in all of this, is that Defense and the political establishment might be lulling themselves into a false sense of security, by underestimating the risks. Sure, you can jailbreak software, but many of the F35’s capabilities still require live access to the American intelligence infrastructure. Without that access, knowing there is no European alternative, the F35 would be a fundamentally broken plane.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

If you can buy USBs that brick when plugged into the wrong system then you can make your aircraft inoperable.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

"I installed some mobile app games on my plane."

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Well yeah, nerds in their basement with a passion for repairability figured out how to jailbreak iPhones, of course nation-states with a passion for ~~killing others~~ protecting their global interests are gonna figure out how to jailbreak their war machines

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 hours ago

The future is vibe coders getting jobs creating plausible, yet fundamentally broken firmware updates to OTA brick F-35 fighter jets.

Come attack us, I dare you. Jack here used his prompting skills to package some Stack Overflow RUST code into Golang binaries that another prompt converted into XHTML so another prompt could compile it into a Bash script to fix the bug in flight controls. Come within 50-nautical miles and we'll OTA update your plane so hard you wish we fired missiles at you!

[–] fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a ridiculus statement coming from a government official. Can't imagine any other motivation than a clickbait equivalent intended to sling the topic in the public limelight.

Given enough effort and time all software can be reverse engineered. So "jailbreaking" is plausible. But that is just one piece of this puzzel. Here is a more informed version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X9ww6FtUhE

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think a US Army/Air Force vet is going to have any less biased of a take than the a Dutch government official lmao

[–] fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Besides the critique towards the person have you any insights as to which of his statements could be biased?

I'm just going to leave this here for reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

Apply that astute logical assessment to your own arguments and claims first 😚

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 43 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Install Graphene on it lol

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 34 points 23 hours ago

Graphene Devs: We can’t support it because it doesn’t have a Titan M Chip blah blah blah

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Please keep buying our jets bro

We spent $1 trillion to make them bro, we need these to work bro

We'll iron out all he bugs, trust us bro

It's the best jet ever made bro, it's killed so many Palestinians and Iranians bro

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[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 66 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't want to be the guy to tell my boss I've bricked the F-35

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

Yeah... Fighter jets don't really get bricked.

A brick is when you've messed something up to the point where the hardware doesn't boot and the only possible solution would be to pull out a rom chip and replace it with one with factory settings, but that's too hard and not worth doing.

But that's the thing, with the F-35, it'll never be not worth doing. It could be a $5000 setback... But whatever.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Add some zeroes to that

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

Modern airplanes, especially military, are Uber complex, and mostly made of bespoke components, and take decades and billions to develop. The idea that $5000 will pay for replacing a core component or system is just plain preposterous.

Just look at the fun Russia is having sourcing spares to keep commercial western jets flying, despite having one of the world's most capable aviation industries.

[–] hcbxzz@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

You're assuming they'll still sell you parts after you tried to bypass the locks

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 16 points 1 day ago

Even broke the warranty seal over the USB port.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Upon hearing this news I ordered a F-35 from Ali Express but they sent me a J-35 instead. Does the jailbreak still work on this device or am I stuck with the stock software? What's the character for landing gear again?

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

Check budgetfighterforums.com

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

imagine flying a jailbroken fighter plane that gets an over-the-air update that bricks the controls

just get the gripen

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Something tells me fighter planes don’t get updates from anything other than a computer plugged directly into them.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In production since 2006 and of course they were designing the things earlier than that, so....

Wouldn't be surprised if it's like some cars of the late 90's and early 00's and you need a computer with an RS-232 port to connect to a multiplexer of some sort that connects to the plane

E.g to get full dealer level access to old Mercedes cars, you'd need one of these:

And a laptop with RS-232 running Windows XP (can be on a VM)

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[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 165 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Next F35-frimware-dump on Piratebay:

  [ RELEASE INFORMATION ]
  -------------------------------------------------------------------
  NAME......: F-35_Series_FW_Utility
  VERSION...: v2.4.0-OPEN
  DATE......: 2026-05-04
  PLATFORM..: Embedded Linux / RTOS
  TYPE......: Firmware Dump & Tools
  SIZE .....: 14.2 GB (840x50MB)
  ORIGIN....: Internal Flash (SPI/NAND)

  [ DESCRIPTION ]
  -------------------------------------------------------------------
  This package contains a jailbreaked binary dump of the flight 
  controller. Included are scripts for:
  
  * Hex-signature verification
  * Partition table analysis
  * File system extraction and flashing
  
  [ INSTALLATION / USAGE ]
  -------------------------------------------------------------------
  1. Ensure your Fighter jet is in USB-Debugging mode.
  2. Run 'python3 F35_jailbreak_flash.py --check-signatures'
  3. Take Off
  
  CAUTION: Modifying firmware can result in a bricked device
  or "Fly-Away" scenarios. Use at your own risk.

  [ GREETS ]
  -------------------------------------------------------------------
  To the researchers, the tinkerer community, and all those 
  who believe in the right to repair and modify their hardware.

  -------------------------------------------------------------------
             "Information wants to be free."```
[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

I was picturing more like a custom ROM on XDA: "Bugs? You tell me."

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Help, how do I unlock the bootloader

[–] DivineDev@piefed.social 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

During startup, press the fire missile and eject buttons at the same time for 20 seconds

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[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

I didn't know our state secretary was a Warthunder enthousiast.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 22 hours ago

The only thing that is certain, is that the logistics chain of the F-35 can easily break down. It is best for the EU to rely on a chain that is fully within their custody.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The racist sack of shit, Hegseth, will have his sick fucknut friend, Doug Wilson (Christian Nationalist), bless each F-35. I hope one of you posts the Pentagon Prayer service given by the fucking lunatics.

If I had the F-35 in my inventory, I would hire a bunch of hackers to prepare the aircraft's software for the just in case moment.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

Right to repair my F-35!

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] talentedkiwi@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the most literal sense.

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