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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao yeah sure, anything but Mossad

[–] xxam925@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not beyond imagination that they are controlling Russia as well.

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

An attempt to subvert an inconvenient narrative, more likely.

[–] rushmonke@ttrpg.network 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] 0485919158191@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I’m innocent, I swear. I’m just an index fund guy :(

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Death is too good for most of them

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's no citation of the files, though. Did anyone find a confirmation? For all known previously, Epstein attempted to make ties with Russian government officials, including Putin, but it wasn't known that Epstein actually was working for Putin.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Officially, Putin collects a modest salary, though a financier alleged to Congress in 2017 that the Russian president "has accumulated $200 billion of ill-gotten gains" through corruption and criminal activity

He's been running Russia for decades, I would highly doubt that his net worth is less than a trillion dollars. He is in that rare atmosphere of wealth that travels ABOVE mere billionaires like Musk. He's up there with the people that are NOT included in the Forbes list, those who are so wealthy and powerful that Forbes knows not to mention their names in some gauche rich guy competition. That includes certain monarchs, Sheikhs, the Rothschilds, etc. Usually long generational wealth that is so large, there almost isn't even a category for it. Putin is in THAT club. Musk WISHES he could get in that club.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Valid. Good perspective.

We still haven't figured out exactly what Epstein was up to. We don't know if he was working for Israel, Russia, somebody else, or was a free agent, collecting material.amd selling to any and all buyers. We think about politics, but he was probably selling info to corporate interests as well.

We know something was up, the smoke is as thick and choking as any political tire fire in recent world history, but we just don't know the source. Blackmail is the usual assumption, but as far as I know, nothing has ever turned up in the files that indicates any hint of a blackmail plot from either side.

Perhaps they were just careful? SOMEBODY would have slipped, somewhere in all those years. Perhaps MAGA is keeping them all hidden? Plausible, but MAGA is notorious for being virtuosically incompetent, and they would have accidentally let slip a few clues and hints, or even downright proof.

So, perhaps Putin was somewhat "forced" to use Epstein in some way, through some currently unknown mechanism, but Putin would have kept him fairly quarantined.

And Epstein was known to play up his connections to influential people he barely knew, portraying them as close friends, if he thought it would ingratiate himself to a new prospect.

[–] borkborkbork@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

We don’t know if he was working for Israel, Russia, somebody else, or was a free agent, collecting material.amd selling to any and all buyers.

I can't help but suspect the CIA is on that list due to the lack of interference from US law enforcement time and time again.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

CIA and Mossad are joined at the hip

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What if "Epstein Class" is more on the nose than people seem to realize?

What if what Epstein was actually an expert at was manipulating human behavior, and his role in the world above all was helping suppress the lower classes through economics and psychological operations? To me, some of the stuff in the Epstein files looks like some of the stuff in the MK ultra files. After all, isn't being able to manipulate the masses what makes all that money so powerfully dangerous?

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[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 148 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

The guy was Mossad/Israeli CIA. His accomplice Maxwell was the daughter of an Israeli spy. He had a map of a fantasy country called "greater Israel" on his wall in his home. He was best friends with former Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Barak and let him live in one of his apartments. He called people "goyims," which come to find out is an Israeli supremacist term to refer to non-Jewish people. The whole US government is compromised with blackmail by Israel and/or bribed by Israel via AIPAC so that the US funds their wars and attack our own people for speaking out against genocide. Only online media will tell you this while the entire billionaire-owned corporate media covers for Israel.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Mossad also managed the wiretapping and camera systems at Epsteins apartment and screened everyone going in and out. https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israeli-government-surveillance-epstein-apartment-66th-street-ehud-barak

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All true. If you know all this, you must know that Israel and Russia have been very close when it suits them to be. It's quite possible that Epstein had connections to lots of Russian powerful people.

[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Absolutely.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago

Okay, but we're talking about how Russia is bad right now. Can you stay on message? Or are you one of those Pro-Putin accounts?

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 day ago

The editors of that article want to spin the story that Jeffrey Epstein is a Russian agent. 😂 maybe the folks on Reddit will believe it. They should post it there first

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 44 points 2 days ago (16 children)

The establishment is trying to turn this into a russian thing, as that's their go to move. But this was a mossad honeypot, clearly done in conjunction with the CIA, which is a great betrayal of their mission, an executable offense, of treason, or it's facsimile, and carries a death sentence to hear the president talk about it.

The CIA isn't allowed to conduct operations in the country, allowing a foreign intelligence agency to accrue blackmail on politicians, and rich people, and the like, is a great betrayal, I don't know why no one has even dug into this, who was in charge when all of this happened, who authorized this at the CIA? Why are they given a pass?

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[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

At this rate, by 2028, these assholes will tell us Jeffrey Epstein was a Russian KGB agent

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

British press is already there. Anything to pretend it wasn't Israel.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 17 hours ago

Jeffrey Epstein was a Russian working in Russia for Vladimir Putin personally and nobody in the US was involved and if you suggest otherwise you're a bot account run by Antifa

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Coleague of Mr. Krasnov?

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

We're not in the timeline to doubt anything, but Putin strikes me, a Russian living in Russia and closely following the politics at least of my own country, especially from the not-so-safe side, as someone who would not choose someone he can't control and have in his grasp to run anything like this.

Not to mention his paranoia, ego mania and the alleged financial skills that, again, allegedly let him win a lot of trust among the people de-facto making big decisions in Russia before he wriggled into presidency.

I don't doubt that Putin had dedicated financial managers at some point, it's just hard to belive it could've been anyone like Epstein, i.e. someone outside Russia or even Moscow where Putin could blackmail and hurt them or at least first treaten them into obedience, even with the eventual murder somewhere outside Russia (Litvinenko poisioning).

Not that nothing unexpected and hard-to-believe hasn't been surfacing for a while already, though.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Did Russian money pass through Epstein? Assuredly.

Was he THE man who managed Putin's vast fortune through Russia and the rest of the world? Assuredly not.

"Epstein was President Vladimir Putin's wealth manager and provided the same service for Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe," the source claimed. PEOPLE has reached out to the Kremlin for comment.

People magazine, you keep shooting your shots... maybe one day you'll knock it out of the park.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Was he THE man who managed Putin’s vast fortune

Would be very convenient if he was. Just completely change the narrative surrounding who the national news should be talking about for the next month

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

That explains how he was able to get a freakin' island.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 56 points 2 days ago (13 children)

I kind of doubt this, actually.

I don't think Putin is the type to trust anybody else with his wealth. Not all of it, anyway, or even most of it.

Maybe I'd believe Epstein was a wealth manager for Putin, not the wealth manager. Just one of the many pies Putin has his fingers in.

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