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[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 149 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (25 children)

The guy was Mossad/Israeli CIA. His accomplice Maxwell was the daughter of an Israeli spy. He had a map of a fantasy country called "greater Israel" on his wall in his home. He was best friends with former Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Barak and let him live in one of his apartments. He called people "goyims," which come to find out is an Israeli supremacist term to refer to non-Jewish people. The whole US government is compromised with blackmail by Israel and/or bribed by Israel via AIPAC so that the US funds their wars and attack our own people for speaking out against genocide. Only online media will tell you this while the entire billionaire-owned corporate media covers for Israel.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Mossad also managed the wiretapping and camera systems at Epsteins apartment and screened everyone going in and out. https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israeli-government-surveillance-epstein-apartment-66th-street-ehud-barak

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All true. If you know all this, you must know that Israel and Russia have been very close when it suits them to be. It's quite possible that Epstein had connections to lots of Russian powerful people.

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[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 9 points 3 weeks ago

The editors of that article want to spin the story that Jeffrey Epstein is a Russian agent. 😂 maybe the folks on Reddit will believe it. They should post it there first

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I kind of doubt this, actually.

I don't think Putin is the type to trust anybody else with his wealth. Not all of it, anyway, or even most of it.

Maybe I'd believe Epstein was a wealth manager for Putin, not the wealth manager. Just one of the many pies Putin has his fingers in.

[–] frischkaesbagett@feddit.org 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Please don't use straw man arguments.

Nowhere in the article it says Epstein was the only one. So you are opposing something that is never said.

The source claimed that Epstein served as a wealth manager for Russian President Vladimir Putin, as well as former Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nowhere in the article it says Epstein was the only one.

You expect me to read articles?!?!? Preposterous!

I'm just going off of the title, where it says:

Jeffrey Epstein Was Vladimir Putin's Wealth Manager

Not 'one of Putin's wealth managers'.

So ... yeah. I blame the poorly worded title. No ragrets.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m my father’s daughter. I have two sisters who are also my father’s daughters. I am also one of my father’s daughters, but that doesn’t make my first sentence incorrect.

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

During the Cold War, there was a race between the United States and the Soviet Union, where:

  • There are only two runners
  • The American finishes 1st
  • The Soviet finishes 2nd (last)

The newspapers report it differently:

U.S. newspaper: “American wins race; Soviet finishes last.”

Soviet newspaper: “Soviet athlete finishes second; American is next to last.”

It’s a classic illustration of media framing and propaganda showing how wording can shape perception without technically lying.

[–] nyctre@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sure. You're right. But there's ways to look at it that makes it misleading anyway. For example if you read the title "Putin's daughter was killed" what will you take from that? That he has multiple daughters or just one?

Plus, your example works because we live in a world where many people have multiple kids. But if you lived in a world where everyone you knew only had one kid, what would you infer from that? Because as far as I know, most people have zero wealth managers and some have one. It's the first time I'm hearing of someone having multiple.

I'm not gonna pretend that your explanation doesn't make sense. And the title is technically correct. But only technically. The fact that op has 34 upvotes shows that many people understood the same thing from the title and that makes it misleading, imo.

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This whole article is a plant to try and associate epstein with russia away from Israel.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you. Exactly. If they can't distract they redirect and/or flood the zone. Whatever works to keep the real systems hidden even as it's all coming out anyway.

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 43 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The establishment is trying to turn this into a russian thing, as that's their go to move. But this was a mossad honeypot, clearly done in conjunction with the CIA, which is a great betrayal of their mission, an executable offense, of treason, or it's facsimile, and carries a death sentence to hear the president talk about it.

The CIA isn't allowed to conduct operations in the country, allowing a foreign intelligence agency to accrue blackmail on politicians, and rich people, and the like, is a great betrayal, I don't know why no one has even dug into this, who was in charge when all of this happened, who authorized this at the CIA? Why are they given a pass?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

Who was in charge? This starts back with the OSS and Donald Barr, spanning like more than a half dozen administrations.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Didn't Obama overturn a law that made it legal for propaganda to be done to Americans on American soil? Smith-Mundt act.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't doubt it, I seem to recall vaguely something along those lines. They never followed those laws preventing domestic operations anyway.

Also, they use the 5 eyes network as an end run around those, they spy on americans, or do operations, and put their allies letterhead on the operation, that then shares the information back with them. Even as it's the us doing the entire thing itself. It's a country run by lawyers, for billionaires.

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[–] redsand@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

This has been going on since the 80s. The Franklin scandal was also CIA and it also went no where.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Shit, how much did Epstein's death fuck Putin? Or perhaps cover his ass?

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Could have been a message to a certain someone to keep them in line.

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

I would be surprised if this activities ever stopped with Epstein's death. He surely was an important figure but he didn't do it alone, and he isn't irreplaceable.

The question "who created Epstein" should also be answered. A school teacher generally can't just start human trafficking out of nowhere.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

None. This is BS. It's a cover up.

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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

There are some gullible-ass mother fuckers in this thread.

Stop taking the fucking bait.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I dunno, I’m sure it can be both

[–] hector@lemmy.today 12 points 3 weeks ago

Israel first. Any russian involvement was after the fact, and done with the blessing of Israel, probably done after Russia started to back the far right across the west, which started at least years before 2016, I remember them giving the National Front of France a loan of 20 or so million, idk if 2014.

But these articles and this talk is all to protect Israel and disassociate from them. Any russian involvement was in effect at the behest of Israel, for their interests, he was an israeli agent through and through.

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[–] rushmonke@ttrpg.network 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Officially, Putin collects a modest salary, though a financier alleged to Congress in 2017 that the Russian president "has accumulated $200 billion of ill-gotten gains" through corruption and criminal activity

He's been running Russia for decades, I would highly doubt that his net worth is less than a trillion dollars. He is in that rare atmosphere of wealth that travels ABOVE mere billionaires like Musk. He's up there with the people that are NOT included in the Forbes list, those who are so wealthy and powerful that Forbes knows not to mention their names in some gauche rich guy competition. That includes certain monarchs, Sheikhs, the Rothschilds, etc. Usually long generational wealth that is so large, there almost isn't even a category for it. Putin is in THAT club. Musk WISHES he could get in that club.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Valid. Good perspective.

We still haven't figured out exactly what Epstein was up to. We don't know if he was working for Israel, Russia, somebody else, or was a free agent, collecting material.amd selling to any and all buyers. We think about politics, but he was probably selling info to corporate interests as well.

We know something was up, the smoke is as thick and choking as any political tire fire in recent world history, but we just don't know the source. Blackmail is the usual assumption, but as far as I know, nothing has ever turned up in the files that indicates any hint of a blackmail plot from either side.

Perhaps they were just careful? SOMEBODY would have slipped, somewhere in all those years. Perhaps MAGA is keeping them all hidden? Plausible, but MAGA is notorious for being virtuosically incompetent, and they would have accidentally let slip a few clues and hints, or even downright proof.

So, perhaps Putin was somewhat "forced" to use Epstein in some way, through some currently unknown mechanism, but Putin would have kept him fairly quarantined.

And Epstein was known to play up his connections to influential people he barely knew, portraying them as close friends, if he thought it would ingratiate himself to a new prospect.

[–] borkborkbork@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

We don’t know if he was working for Israel, Russia, somebody else, or was a free agent, collecting material.amd selling to any and all buyers.

I can't help but suspect the CIA is on that list due to the lack of interference from US law enforcement time and time again.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

CIA and Mossad are joined at the hip

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[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

We're not in the timeline to doubt anything, but Putin strikes me, a Russian living in Russia and closely following the politics at least of my own country, especially from the not-so-safe side, as someone who would not choose someone he can't control and have in his grasp to run anything like this.

Not to mention his paranoia, ego mania and the alleged financial skills that, again, allegedly let him win a lot of trust among the people de-facto making big decisions in Russia before he wriggled into presidency.

I don't doubt that Putin had dedicated financial managers at some point, it's just hard to belive it could've been anyone like Epstein, i.e. someone outside Russia or even Moscow where Putin could blackmail and hurt them or at least first treaten them into obedience, even with the eventual murder somewhere outside Russia (Litvinenko poisioning).

Not that nothing unexpected and hard-to-believe hasn't been surfacing for a while already, though.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

I think it’s a pretty safe bet that Putin has tried to keep as many of his eggs in different baskets as possible. Having Epstein manage a bit of his money would be pretty low risk if he’s got most of it in other ventures.

For all the many public failures Putin has had over the past few years, he’s proved himself frustratingly resilient. He’s like some kind of nuclear powered cockroach.

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[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Pu doesn't need Epstein to ‘hide his money offshore’. There are more than enough knowledgeable people in Russia who'll teach any aspiring businessman to create LLCs that own each other in a circle, while the actual decision-maker is nowhere to be seen. Pu likes his confidants to be close to him, he wouldn't hire some schmuck from the other side of the world for this, especially seeing as he himself was involved in money-hiding since his days in the KGB.

An actual wealth holder for Pu is cellist Sergei Roldugin, his friend since Roldugin's military service in 1977. Roldugin holds positions in multiple state-funded culture-related initiatives that Putin personally oversaw. He's also a businessman, or rather a business owner, somehow having shares in private companies worth dozens of millions of bucks each. He's been shown to own offshore companies that traded shares in state-owned companies and got loans without collateral and with small interest. Lithuanian government confirmed Roldugin's offshore operations — as Lithuanian banks were involved in the transactions — and considers them to be money laundering. Roldugin is named in the Pandora Papers and other journalist investigations, is indirectly a suspect in state investigations in Panama and Switzerland, and is sanctioned since 2022 by the US, EU, and some other countries.

Roldugin is also involved with the Rossiya bank, which is considered the personal ‘wallet’ for Putin's friends, and which bank is separately sanctioned by the US since 2014 and the EU since 2022.

The founder and owner of the largest share in the Rossiya bank is Yury Kovalchuk, who's sanctioned by the US since 2014 for being Putin's personal banker. Well, again, Putin knew him since early nineties, and they founded the Ozero cooperative together with Putin's other friends, who all hold top positions in the government or business.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 11 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

There's no citation of the files, though. Did anyone find a confirmation? For all known previously, Epstein attempted to make ties with Russian government officials, including Putin, but it wasn't known that Epstein actually was working for Putin.

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[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

At this rate, by 2028, these assholes will tell us Jeffrey Epstein was a Russian KGB agent

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

British press is already there. Anything to pretend it wasn't Israel.

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My neighbors and I are working on a community garden. REAL communism.

One of the many problems with collecting human intelligence is that sources will tell you just about anything true or not. Some of the stories in the Epstein files match this problem. This feels like one of them. Some critical reading is required.

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