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[–] chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 minutes ago

You don't say... I was sure he was going to admit to being a pedophile and child rapist.

Just goes to show ya, you can never be sure about these things.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Since when is "i didn't know" a get out of jail free card?

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 2 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

Depends on what you don't know and when you didn't know it.

All crimes have requirements. Most crimes require that the person "know" or "intended" to engage in the criminal behavior. Sometimes the knowledge requirement is subjective, but mostly it's objective...i.e. what would a reasonable person have known under the same circumstances. Which means that being drunk or otherwise impaired is rarely a defense to a crime requiring knowledge or awareness. Another exception when knowledge doesn't matter is statutory rape of a minor in the US; you can legitimately think they are of age when you screw... But if they are a minor it's rape regardless.

The knowledge requirement pertains to factual knowledge of the circumstance (i.e. you reasonably knew the property wasn't yours when you took it). Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Everyone has implied knowledge of every law as soon as it's codified. Fuckin' bullshit, especially the younger and poorer you are.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So, he lied, as expected.

It's okay if you lie to Congress about this one subject, and several others. They don't really want to know. They're just trying to get re-elected. This is one more reason we need term limits for Congress.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Doubt he lied about the second part at least. He probably did make sure all the ones he was with were at least 18. Considering that Trump's admin has the Epstein files, they'd totally run him over if they had evidence otherwise, and they definitely could easily know if he lied or not on that. He knows they don't, that's why he testified.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Epstein was pretty careful not to talk about actual crimes in a way that would have been recorded. There are numerous instances of him saying they need to take a conversation offline.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 5 hours ago

Now that Bill and Hillary have testified, it's time for Trump and Melania.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 25 points 12 hours ago
[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 46 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Just like when he told the entire USA “I did not. have. sexual relations with that woman. Ms. Lewinsky…”

But then he actually did.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

That depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.

Seriously, though, he stated later that he was interpreting the definition of "sexual relations" to mean that he had touched her in sexual ways. Apparently he was only ever on the receiving end, and therefore his claim was that she had "sexual relations" with him, but not vice versa. In his view, his response followed the letter of the law, if not the spirit of the law. He wasn't found guilty of perjury, so apparently he wasn't entirely wrong, legally speaking.

Now ... Is he a POS who cheated on his wife? Maybe. The Republican rumor mill (AKA Rush Limbaugh) claimed for years that they had an open marriage and were both sleeping with other people. That's the sort of thing that a lot of people are okay with now, but it was not talked about in polite society in the '90s. I've always thought that if Hillary was willing to stand by him after everything that came out, then we probably shouldn't judge him on her behalf.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Well there was the whole cigar thing. Either way, we know he’s wiling to lie to the world.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Since when is consensually sticking your dick in someone's mouth not a sexual touch?? "Sexual" is literally the only way to describe that.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know if it makes sense to view their marriage through the lens of normal romance. I see them as having devoted their lives to building a political dynasty, and I think they wouldn't get divorced unless it served that end.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

I agree. People get married for all kinds of reasons. They may have married for political power, and they may well have an open marriage. Nobody really knows what happens in anyone else's relationship.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Down vote away but I've always agreed with Clinton's definition. If your buddy bragged that they had sex with somebody and it turned out they only got a BJ, then I'd call them a liar.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

But if she turned out to be a minor, "my buddy" is still a child rapist. The whole point of the phrase "sexual relations" is to make it inexact enough to include all sexual acts. How anyone can believe someone getting their dick sucked is uninvolved in the act is just baffling.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

Your buddy would have also bragged about the fact that he used her pussy as a humidor instead of trying to talk about the definition of is.

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 29 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Haha no surprise there. I said a few weeks ago in a comment this is what will happen and got massively down voted. Because if he admitted that he knew of the crimes, then he is 1. guilty for doing nothing about it despite being in power or adjacent to powerful people, or 2. is a pedo himself. So all he can do is say he knew nothing in order to save his own ass.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The issue with doing this under oath is that if any evidence comes out to the contrary it's an easy conviction. Not that he hasn't weasled around lying under oath before, but it is higher stakes than just making a public statement.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Well that's depressing because it means he thinks the fascism will win.

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

He's a part of the system cabal, of course he knows what the aim is

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

??

It either means he legitimately didn't know anything or that he doesn't think there is any evidence to support he did know/did anything. I'm pretty sure if they had anything concrete on him, the Trump admin would have gone after him, simply to divert away from everything theyre doing.

[–] ape_arms@lemmy.world 49 points 20 hours ago
[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Bill is lying, trump raped kids, Bill was there, he needs to be arrested.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 hours ago

Far as I'm concerned, those two could share a cozy cell.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 48 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Might as well lie, not like laws matter anymore.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I.. did not... inhale.

That's... not what I asked you, Bill.

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