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[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago

US warships have already been hit. There is massive censorship in place.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 62 points 1 day ago

not without putting American warships in the line of fire

Did anyone check the definition of a "war" before starting one?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Great, so we can add a "strait of hormuz incident" to the bay of pigs, gulf of tonkin, and other body-of-water-based US military disasters

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

But the war's already started, what does Iran have to lose?

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 16 points 1 day ago

Let's dump the Trump admin in the Hormuz strait

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Does Phalanx work for a convoy or just the ship on which it is deployed?

I guess we will also learn how well it works against cheap drones.

I don’t think any of that works well against artillery shells, and oil tankers are not well armoured.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It works when it's in range. And it'll only occasionally spray allied ships because the Phalanx doesn't check whats behind the target.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 4 points 1 day ago

gee whiz CIWIS

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

An American destroyer has a large number of area defence interceptor missiles, not just the CIWS. The question is, will the interceptors be completely effective if Iran is able to launch a saturation attack on them, and will they have enough interceptors left by the time they get out of the shooting gallery. Personally, I think even they aren't stupid enough to try it, but I hope I'm proven wrong.

[–] decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Phalanx is self defense only. The weapons used to protect nearby ships are ESSM and SM-2 missiles. Which should to work fine to intercept cheap drone, artillery and ballistic missiles. (Tho very expressive to intercept artillery with missiles)

The navy has used those systems recently to defend ships during the Houti crisis in the red sea.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Huh. I was expecting the strategy to be bombing the sites that would launch attacks on shipping, not to actually escort and try to defend the ships.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

That strategy failed miserably against the Houthis.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

Well see there is the whole issue of Missile Trucks.

Where are they? How many are there? Where are they headed? Which ones are decoys? Where will they deploy to fire?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Other than Israel responding by glassing all of Iran, what's to stop Iran from waiting until the wind is blowing the right way and launching a dirty missile at Israel? If it gets intercepted it still spews nuclear material over the country right?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is nothing to stop this from escalating, I don't think abrupt, nonsensical nuclear war is off the table for the US or Israel and I don't think the centrists of the world are ready for that (which terrifyingly, is really one of the few "gotchas" Trump and Netanyahu have left to flip the script, all the other non-existent international norms people believed in are already destroyed, nuclear weapons are the only one left.).

We have never been closer to nuclear war in my lifetime and it is almost entirely the fault of the US and Israel.

Let me ask you a question, if every accusation is an admission, what is Trump loudly admitting he is about to do?

This conflict leads directly to the use of "tactical" nuclear weapons because this is the first bullshit war in a long time in US history where the existentiality necessity of using nuclear weapons can be invoked without the immediate fear of nuclear retaliation as a consequence, at least according to how the leadership of the US and Israel see it.

There are not many off ramps left here...

Iran could easily end up doing that if things keep escalating, but I think what the US and Israel do will be far more catastrophic for everybody.

[–] arrrse@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was just thinking that wouldnt it be a bit risky for the warships to escort other ships through since its not somalian pirates on boats, but missiles, drones and who knows what else that are the threat. I doubt they have that much protection against them on every single warship?

Also ive been waiting for the market crash, but it seems that the world (not only maga) buys anything that the orange butt-plug says and this is a good example of that

[–] ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee 5 points 16 hours ago

Well you see that's where Trump's level of genius shines. Don't shoot the archers, shoot the arrows (it looks way cooler and people think you're so badass).

Sure you might lose a naval vessel or twelve when US capacity to build more ships is really low, but that's a sacrifice this level of genius is willing to make (totally unawares, probably).

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With Iran already being economically isolated for years before this war, there's not enough new risk of further economic damage to cause a market crash.

[–] arrrse@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Im not talking about iran's economy, im talking about the gas, oil, container and whatever shipmnts going through. They have stopped gas production at one refinery if i remember correctly and so on. What if the war spreads across middle east? Thats what i think would affect the market, but thats not enough I suppose?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Thats what i think would affect the market

Trump (and Putin) want oil and gas prices to rise. It's Russia's only significant source of foreign currency earnings.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Especially after the US torpedoed the Iris Dena? Fun times.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There seriously is not enough alcohol for this administration.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Not with Patel and Kegsbreath chugging it.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sweet, let’s watch some navy ships go down.

[–] atropa@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Not that , just let trump go down in his titan sub .

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How much of our air defensive stockpile do you think our russia backed regime can expend protecting the wealth of the royal house of saud?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

All of it in a matter of a week or two, easily.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

4D Chess irl.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago