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[–] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 hours ago

Figures, sorry. 

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I really don't remember the last time Firefox crashed on me and I've been using it for many years

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Yeah same here. Sometimes I think some people either have no clue how to use a computer or they do it on purpose and then complain.

[–] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 49 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Technically every that happens on a computer is a bit flip 😏

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 20 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Nonconsensual bitflips

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

Indignant bystander: "fucking whore!"

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 119 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Firefox kept crashing on me a few days ago. Decided to run MemTest86 and sure enough. Bad RAM.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago

Ouch, my condolences to your wallet

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 43 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I flip my bits looking at porn using FireFox and that shit almost never crashes 🤷‍♂️

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 69 points 1 day ago (36 children)

Guess Linus was right again to only use ECC RAM.

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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is how dev humblebrag sounds like.
Our app is so stable only random hardware events like bitflips can crash it.

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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

What makes Firefox more susceptible to bitflips than any other software? Wouldn't that mean that 10% of all software crashes are caused by bitflips and it just depends what software you are running when that happens.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Programs that use more memory could be slightly more susceptible to this sort of thing because if a bit gets randomly flipped somewhere in a computer's memory, the bit flip more likely to happen in an application that has a larger ram footprint as opposed to an application with a small ram footprint.

I'm still surprised the percentage is this high.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 points 5 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

Is it high? How does it compare to any other software? First time hearing of someone actually measuring this.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This checks out with Linus Torvalds saying most OS crashes across linux AND windows are caused by hardware issues, and also why he uses ECC RAM.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly yeah it's 100% checks out.

I have device that has ECC ram and I can keep it online and applications running for well over 18 months with no stability issues.

However, both my work computers and my personal computer start to become unstable after about 15 to 20 days. And degrade over the course of 1 to 2 years (with a considerable increase in the number of corrupt system files)

Firefox and chrome start to become unstable after usually a week if they have really high memory usage.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Can confirm, my linux server with ECC RAM has 1040 days of uptime now without a single issue.

[–] spizzat2@lemmy.zip 37 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think they're arguing that Firefox is more susceptible to bit flips. They're trying to say that their software is "solid" enough that a significant number of the reported crashes are due to faulty hardware, which is essentially out of their control.

If other software used the same methodology, you could probably use the numbers to statistically compare how "solid" the code base is between the two programs. For example, if the other software found that 20% of their crashes were caused by bit flips, you could reasonably assume that the other software is built better because a smaller portion of their crashes is within their control.

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