What room is there for anything with a negative budget?
this post was submitted on 14 Mar 2026
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100% agree, but the worst side of the human condition is in control and they want to burn baby burn it all down.
Nature bats last. Climate change is the real winner in all these wars.
Oh boy, I get to post my doom call!
If you live for another 50 years, you WILL witness the collapse of civilization. We have blown past every single warming-limit goal, and are not only continuing to warm the planet but are doing it at an accelerating pace.
Its getting warmer, and its getting warmer FASTER.
Very soon the major breadbaskets of the world will no longer be able to grow crops. As soon as the grain agricultural industry collapses, billions, with a B, will starve.
We are witnessing the end of modern civilization, which will end just as fast as it arrived.
That is just ONE thing that will collapse, not to mention the mid Atlantic ocean current that makes Europe liveable or the melting of the ice caps, raising sea level and stopping the circum polar current around Antarctica.
We are so irrevocably fucked. It is literally too late to do anything. Zero emissions from right now would still mean we are fucked.
We are witnessing the end of modern civilization, which will end just as fast as it arrived.
So it'll take 10,000 years?
Civilizations and cultures survive the loss of >30% of their population all the time. The black death, the columbian disease exchange, the mongol empire, the collapse of the western roman empire, etc.. Losing billions of people will be terrible, of course, but the billions that survive will still exist and work to survive, and they will be people worth fighting for.
Current food production is over 10 times what is necessary to feed everyone on the planet, with the vast majority of it being wasted on the meat and dairy industry that we can just stop. Food forests require more labor per calorie but are far more resilient to climate change and require far less land area, allowing the remaining agricultural land to rewild and act as a carbon sink.
The AMOC (atlantic current) is "making Europe livable" by making it warmer. Helpfully, climate change will do the same. In pessimistic scenarios, Europe returns to the current average temperature after a decade or two. Again, yes, in this scenario >90% of current human habitation would probably have to be abandoned and human population may dip below one billion, but those hundreds of millions of people still deserve the best chance we can give them.
If our best efforts mean we can only keep a billion people alive, it would be worth it.
If our best efforts mean we can only keep a million people alive, it would be worth it.
If our best efforts mean we can only keep ten thousand people alive, it would be worth it.
Every kiloton of CO2 we stop the emission of is a life saved, and the vast majority are emitted in the US, Europe, and China. If you live in any of these regions, there is so much you can do.
How come the crops won't grow?
The areas where most food grows will be rather hot and dry, but with lots of storms.
Some years will get things like atmospheric rivers that flood everything.
Extreme weather events will be the new normal basically everywhere.
Widespread drought, aridification caused by said droughts, and the average increase in temperatures will disproportionately affect those countries that are in sub tropical/super temperate zones. Those countries are where a vast majority of our grain staples are grown.
We'll combat global warming with nuclear winter! 🙃
Throw another hotdog on the uranium! It’s almost time for The President’s Daily Truthcast.
We were never gonna get the carbon thing under control.
as A physics channel person as said, countries have largely abandoned global climate change for a while now. they are mostly going YOLO with oil now. plus there are subtle acts of undermining/sabotaging environmental activism for years, like funding "carbon footprint companies" so they dont have to reduce thier emissions, and funding "eco-activists" you hear in the news defacing public properties to incite ire against protestors.(mona lisa, gluing yourself to cars,,,etc)
Some science channels were called out for promoting these companies as a way of reducing your carbon footprint, luckily they stopped once they found out.
Correct. Oligarchs are responsible for the murder of billions of humans. Absurd, disgusting, shameful... yet, wholly predictable.
And just like carbon credits, they’ll just throw money at it to “offset” the carbon budget.
we are literally in so many ways, which is why i’m resorting to memeing
Reducing population goes a long way towards helping though. It all depends on just how apocalyptic the world war is
Presumably the impact would greatest if the population in areas with highest per capita usage were reduced first, right?
You'd probably need to put the oil out of reach of the survivors.
Eh, a few old demented psychopaths armed with nuclear warheads? I'd wager to say pretty apocalyptic.
Bethesda this IS NOT what I wanted for Fallout 5
Priorities:
political-motivation ALWAYS outranks objectivity, among the political.
Welcome to Accelerationism's grass-roots edition.
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Unless...
yeah the spike during ww3 would be bad but the new great depression would do wonders before ww4
insert Einstein quote about ww4 being fought with sticks here
WW4? I like your spunky optimism.
Orrr, keep up with me on the optimism, it would be like post WWII in which the pendulum will swing the other way.
Oh god no........you're suggesting ANOTHER round of boomers??? THATS the reward for all this suffering??? We haven't even gotten rid of all the old boomers yet!
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