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How is it any people cannot put themselves in that place with imagining? Even animals could identify with what would not be desirable. Humans should have the sensibility to know they would not want what the animals being used are put through, we can likewise choose to not have anything to do with that, and we can already find out ourselves that there are ways to be very healthy this way without products from animals. And the same amount of use of resources for it and contribution to damage to environments with loss of species does not need to be continued then. https://healthyaging.emory.edu/could-eating-30-plants-a-week-be-the-answer-to-better-health/

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

OP, per Rule 3, posts with an image of text should have a transcription in the body or the alt-text.

Since I totally dropped the ball and missed this by nearly a day, I'll make one myself:

Cattle are killed at 12 months. Cattle can live 20 years. Pigs are killed at 5 months. Pigs can live 20 years. Chickens are killed at 5 weeks. Chickens can live 10 years.

These animals that you are paying to be tortured and killed are babies. They have lived only a fraction of their lives and what they have endured would make any sane person weep.

Please, in the future, be mindful of this rule. Making the world accessible for everyone is a worthwhile cause and based on the same principles of empathy and equity that veganism is.

[–] ChetManly@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Chickens are processed at 10-16 weeks depending on breed. They are not tortured when processed. They are tortured when they are alive. Be upset at factory farming not eating meat. A properly raised and processed bird doesn't suffer and has a happy life. Problem is, that costs a lot more.

Source: raise and eat my own chickens and eggs

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Eating flesh requires factory farming to be viable at a scale large enough for billions of humans. It's literally impossible for every human that eats chicken flesh to raise their own chickens, this is a non-starter.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about that.

Almost sounds like industry propaganda to prevent us realising we each could raise our own chickens.

Could convert a wall to be a chicken farm.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I mean maybe but we could make it better allow people to raise birds in their yard for eggs and stuff. People just don't want to.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

But not everyone could actually do it - a lot of people don't even have yards, or share yard-space with neighbors, or have other animals that wouldn't be safe around chickens. A lot more people don't have the time or energy to modify their yard to actually be a reasonable enclosure for a chicken with enough space for her to be healthy and happy, or to clean up after her or feed her or take care of her when she's sick. This can't be a solution to factory farming for the majority of humanity, it's not even worth discussing.

Also, I actually had a chicken when I was young! She's why I'm vegan, too. I realized I didn't like the idea of killing her because she was my friend, no different than killing a pet dog or cat. I think, if more people raised chickens, they'd also realize that they don't want to kill their friends. It's easy to have empathy for a sweet innocent animal that you care for and would never hurt you.

I think we should normalize pet chickens, because I think people would start to see it as no different than killing 16-week old dogs.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] farting_gorilla@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The way the word "processed" is used so casually is really saddening.

If you're going to do this at least be honest about it instead of hiding behind these words to make it seem less terrible. You're killing and dismembering these birds.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago

Sure doesn't bother me and I kill and butcher my own animals.

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Honestly i could not care less how you frame it. Words are just words and somebody could just as well say euthanazied and prepared and it would mean the same thing.

I personally find this kind of things extremelly naive. Prey animals life is horrible and filled with constant dread of everything even without human intervention.

Reason why im against eating meat is because meat industry is bad for enviroment and modern day humans, at least in developed countries dont need that industry to survive.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 21 hours ago

Friends looked at me weird when I pointed out I've eaten babies.

... Then I pointed out what I meant.

Then, with their ignorance shattered, they looked at themselves weird too.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 21 hours ago

Just a nitpick on the numbers. It very much depends on environment, species, the farmer, and other factors as to when animals are harvested. I only farm vegetables personally today. But I know a lot of farmers. I imagine it also varies by country as well. If you want to make a good defense against animal products to an audience accustomed to them, being accurate can be important

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Then why do they make themselves taste so good?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Did you know they call human flesh "long pork"?

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