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The worst and most stupid bit is this:

Speaking to crowds on Wednesday, vice president JD Vance said US allies are "suffering from this, frankly, more than we are."

He claimed this was because they had "focused on a lot of green energy scams and they're hurting a lot more than we are."

Vance continued:"As much as we've got to focus on getting these gas prices down, the reality is overseas they're feeling it far worse than we did because we've taken the steps to protect our energy economy.

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[–] Maragato@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In Spain, for example, electricity prices remain low thanks to renewable energy. This guy is stupid.

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He is not stupid. He is deliberately deceiving his voters.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Why not both?

[–] DarthPub@retrofed.com 185 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 45 points 4 days ago (3 children)

What's worse is that people actually believe him.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"We created an unnecessary serious problem, but it causes more grief for you than for us! So why don't you come help us fix it (at our direction of course)."

Gee, can't guess why that might get some allies p.o.'d....

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[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 153 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Ironically investing in renewable energy and EVs is how Europe can increase its energy independence. It's not like they can pump that oil from their ground.

I imagine this war will speed up this conversion even more.

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[–] DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 103 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Why are they allies when spoken to and treated like this?

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

To him they are not allies his allies are on the Bored of Peace.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is a great question that I'm kinda raging about.

I'm Australian. Our fuel prices have increased by almost 50%. Inflation for this year is projected to be 5%.

This is a ridiculous, unnecessary war, serving the interests of a despot we have had no business in supporting.

I imagine that our Prime Minister would say, we were USA allies for 100 years before Trump, and will be for 100 years after he's gone. It's true that our alliance runs deep. The current AUKUS agreement concerns building submarines in partnership over several decades.

However, I'm peeved that our Prime Minister is tip toeing around avoiding saying anything mean about the pedo in chief. Trump has thrown us all under the bus for his own reasons, and absolutely deserves to be called out.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 85 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

For anyone who doesn’t know, the US is the largest oil producer in the world, more than double any other country. So that’s the reason prices aren’t going up as much as they may be elsewhere, but also what that means is that when we attack Iran us oil company stocks skyrocket. People pay more, billionaires reap, hedge funds reap, the military industrial complex reaps. War as a service.

https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/War_economy

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 days ago

Didn’t know WaaS was a thing. This timeline is just asS.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I cannot even begin to parse how he thought any of those words were a good idea, let alone in that order.

This is genuinely one of the dumbest things I have ever heard a human being say. Not only is it ludicrously, hilariously wrong, but even if it wasn't, why would that be a good thing? Why would you want to proudly declare how much you fucked over your allies?! Does he know what the word "ally" means? Do any of them know?

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[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male...

Stupid toxic masculinity and their constant attempts to cover up their weakness and insecurities by pretending they are 'real men'. And 'real men' don't have empathy. So they behave like self serving pricks.

Why do people vote baby brained bullies into positions of power?

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I’m pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male…

Vance said Trump was "America's Hitler". Before Vance realized that he could get power by supporting Trump.

You seem to be using "he thinks" in the sense "Vance genuinely believes". I am not convinced Vance believes anything, his actions look like pure opportunism.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

Yep, give loser MAGA some hope that they’re not the bottom of the barrel they really are.

This all just plays into the kind of people they are. “You’re suffering, but look at how much worse that poor asshole over there is suffering. Don’t you feel great!?”

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

UK - petrol prices are rising.

Electricity prices are falling because most of our energy is from renewables and british/european gas.

Sucks for me because my car is a petrol one. My wife's is electric and it costs about £4 for her to charge up overnight and that gets her about 250-280 miles of range (£0.01 per mile).

My car costs £55 to fill up for 400 miles per range (£0.13 per mile).

Although my car is cheaper

Edit - changed currency symbol....realise 0.01p isnt the same as 1p....

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 47 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Other aspects are already addressed in the comments, but this:

He claimed this was because they had “focused on a lot of green energy scams and they’re hurting a lot more than we are.”

It doesn't even make sense: US attacking Iran affects fossil fuel delivery; countries that focus more on green energies are more resilient to such crises, not less.

In my EU country fuel prices rose noticeably ~12%. How much in the USA?

And if JD refers to Germany's over-reliance in Russian gas (which isn't very green anyhow): That's the pot calling the kettle black. The US have already lifted sanctions on Russian oil amid this war.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If a maga Republican is saying something, it's usually the exact opposite of what they are saying that is true. Look it up, this is not a joke.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago

That's what allies usually look for, suffering.

[–] Zahtu@feddit.org 28 points 4 days ago (10 children)

does he also have a brainworm now or is he just as dumb? Can he explain like in what correlation does the buildout of greenenergy make one more dependent on oil?

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[–] GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What does it help him when others suffer more? So USA is still suffering, but less? Great for them... 

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's the Republican's whole shtick "Vote for us, we'll make those people you don't like hurt worse than we make you hurt"

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 4 days ago (3 children)

He missed his calling. He should be living in a trailer park with a yard full of weeds, broken toys and dog shit, a police record and a restraining order from his ex-wife.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yup because that's the bar we want set.

Other countries suffer more than us. Great job /s

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Oil / Gas is a global commodity, shipped around the world on tankers. If prices are higher in France, someone will take cheaper oil/gas from the US and ship it to France where they can make more money.

In the short term, maybe the US suffers less. But, in the longer term prices well even out as people will sell wherever they can get the highest profits.

[–] paul@lemmy.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't even think we are suffering more. Like my fuel prices have gone up by 10p/litre. I'm seeing Americans pay over $100 to fill their tanks, I paid £60 today, our national debt isn't sitting at 20 odd Trillion and our stock market didn't just lose over $1T. Like everything else with these clowns, the truth is the opposite of what they say it is.

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[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

TIL US imports 97% of crude oil that Canada produces which is 60% of all US crude oil imports.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

That has been a long running problem for Canada. It has the raw crude, but not the refining capacity. If you're just a resource extraction location, then you're no better than a colony; that's why Trump treats Canada the way he does.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

what allies, do the US have any left ?

I drive my BYD EV charged off my solar panels here in Australia or ride my bicycle.

I have no idea what the price of gasoline or diesel is. I am sure I'll see higher prices from freight but we've woefully under invested in electrified rail transport for freight and moving pole around the country so we are finding out after fucking around for decades.

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Allies? I though we made it clear that the us has no allies in this war. Nobody want ww3 only to distract the brainwashed population of an awful pedophile from a list that he will do anything to hide it. At this point they are alone with the mess, deal with it.

[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This war is probably the most effective way to promote green energy. Similar to how Windows fucking up is the best way to promote Linux. People have to suffer before attempting different solutions 💀

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Our infrastructure isn't completely built around cars. We have proper public transportation, walking and cycling infrastructure. The best in the world actually. I don't need gas or oil to cycle. And my electricity is made by windmills and solar panels.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

lol I’d love to hear them explain this green scam stuff

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Okay, I admit that I’m terrible at human relationships.

But even I know that if you ask someone for help and then gloat over them they’re going to be less likely to help you.

How are these guys this bad at this and still in global office?

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Really Just Dumb? The Allies have something called public transportation and high-speed rail. You fucking moron, you could have used the $200 billion to upgrade the entire Northeast Corridor and turned it into a true high-speed rail system and that is just for starters. In the meantime, piss off and take your AmeriKa Last with you.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

He so perfectly embodies the fascist ethos. You aren’t suffering, as long as others are suffering more.

I can’t tell if he’s incredibly un-American, or very very American.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I kind of suspect this is the entire point of this conflict. The US is not immune to global oil supply disruptions, but we are a net exporter now, while China relies very heavily on foreign imports. I would not be at all surprised if this was a way to put the hurt on China and the rest of the world, while blaming Iran for it. Of course Epstein distraction too, but not only that.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

China will not be impacted that much as you think. China is much more oil independent than before. Unlike the US, China invests heavily in green energy and nuclear energy. The only country that is behind in all of this, it's the US.

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@cryptoandcoffee/china-invested-1-trillion-on-renewable-energy-last-year-dqc

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Actually yeah I was just talking about this in a different post. Renewables are indeed big now and China is a leader.

BUT there is one catch with this. Liquid petroleum has never actually been that big a part of electricity generation. So all of China’s renewables, great as they are, are primarily reducing their usage of coal (which they have domestically in abundance).

Natural gas is also used for electricity, and they may have had to import that before.

But no matter how energy independent they get, it doesn’t free them from oil, which is still incredibly important for plastics and fertilizers.

A China that can’t manufacture cheap plastic crap is a China brought to its knees. A China that can’t feed its people is a China in revolution.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 17 points 4 days ago

"allies" are more likely to have renewable power sources than the US...and functional, widespread public transport systems

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Wait, so the person who aligned himself with an obese orange painted child rapist and narcissistic pathological liar doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

I think I'm immediately going to go outside and smash up my solar panels, my battery system, and my heatpump. No, scratch that, I'll drive my electric car over everything.
Then I'll go and import a massive Ford F1CUNT mobile and roll moles!!

Or not. It's a tricky one...

I mean, yesterday we ran our entire house for free, charged the car for free, and exported a few quid of electricity back in to the grid...but, yes, oil and gas is definitely better for me and the climate.
Yes, I know not everyone can't do what we've done but the quicker everyone can get away from fossil fuels the better.

So FUCK OFF, COUCH FUCKING PAEDO ENABLER!
I hope you americans will hold this prick to account once the kiddie fiddling nonce finally dies.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

why would this be good

and why would green energy lead to this result

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