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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I did not make it far into that. Christ. Wtf is wrong with people. 4chan ruined so many people, I remember that site being posted there, it was like an achive for some of the posts on b. That is a whole new low for it though.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 128 points 2 days ago (3 children)

On a Telegram group chat. In other words, in plain text on a popular social network.

Regulators, take note about how encryption isn't preventing you from finding crimes. (As if the Epstein emails weren't enough evidence.)

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 70 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the lesson from the epstein files: encryption is not stopping crime from being stopped. Something else is, focus on that.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago

The people pushing those laws super don't care 😒

[–] mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

was the group actually unencrypted or are you just assuming that because it is the default setting in telegram?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

They're probably assuming the chats aren't encrypted because telegram doesn't encrypt those. Source

Multi-device End-to-end encrypted chats are a mess

The concept of End-to-End Encryption has no limits for the number of communicating devices. However, if you want to access your end-to-end encrypted chats from multiple devices, you’re facing many technical difficulties, especially when it comes to connecting new devices, loading chat history and restoring backups.

Most of our competitors (notably, Whatsapp and iMessage) solve these problems in ways that make their end-to-end encryption useless (this is a big topic, so requires a separate manual [poster note, that link goes to a 'manual' that hasn't been filled out lol]). To solve them in a secure way, you’d have to sacrifice usability and some of the features you’re used to – the result would never be as fluent and simple as what we offer in Cloud Chats.

Telegram says they don't encrypt them and tries to imply that people who actually know how to use cryptography failed to solve this problem because they couldn't solve it with their shitty self rolled 'encryption' algo that hasn't been peer reviewed (unlike the signal protocol)

[–] XLE@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago

The group is unencrypted because it's not possible to encrypt group chats in Telegram, because Telegram is that bad.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago

Without reading the article I knew it would be Terrorgram.

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So they can all be caught without mass surveillance? In other words they knew about Epstein for years but ignored it until his victims started to talk.

[–] TheEEEdiot@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 days ago

To be fair, they ignored it even after his victims started to talk.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yet somehow gays are response for making marraige a joke.

Utterly revolting these monsters are.

[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

I’ve heard this excuse before and countered effectively with drive-through weddings and the national divorce rate.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago

Well this sounds fucking horrible.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Do these men know that they just have to listen and communicate with their wives and they will naturally wanna fuck them? Like the drugs are just sex with their wives with extra steps.

[–] homoludens@feddit.org 51 points 2 days ago

It's not about sex, it's about power.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 11 points 2 days ago

These crimes are always about power and control, not about sex. I think a part of it comes from feeling powerless (or having felt powerless long ago) in other areas of life. This is obviously no excuse and absolutely abhorrent behavior, but as we can read in the article these men will walk the streets again after a few years, so psychotherapy for them should be mandatory, with their sentences extended if the therapist thinks it's necessary to prevent further victims.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

It's not about the sex for people like that.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I understand the sentiment, but that's not how it works either. People aren't that simple.

[–] rustyfish@piefed.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Again? And again on telegram?

Is this old news?

Edit: Nope. I was thinking of cases in Singapore.