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[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I honestly don't understand how you Americans still seem to believe that anything in the Epstein files could possibly harm Trump. It was known before the 2016 election, that he was peeping in dressing rooms at Miss Teen contests. Before the 2016 election he bragged about sexually assalting women. Before the 2024 election he was convicted for sexual abuse.

And people did vote for him, not despite of that, but because of it. Because they are misogynistic assholes who adore and envy him for doing stuff like that.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He raped a 13 year old violently and there's probably video in those epstein files.

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

And? These allegations were also known since 2016. But that didn't stop anyone from voting for him, twice.

His Conspiracy Theorist supporters will call it an AI fake, created by the deep state.
For his Christian voters he'll be redeemed if he pays 50 shekels to the girls father and marries her.
His nazi supporters might say: "Whell that's not nice. But at least he's getting rid of the immigrants."
His sexist supporters will say "Well 13 might be a bit young, but after all it's her fault for wearing such a short skirt. And with these kids nowadays you never know their real age".
His MAGA supporters will say "I don't care, he's our saviour. If he deems such things necessary, who am I to question him."
The Idiots say "Well he might be an asshole, but Kamala Harris also did some bad things."
And his courts say that it's already barred or he's got immunity or he just enacts a new law that makes rape legal if the perpetrator is a politician. He'll have the Congress's support, as soon as the files are released.

Did I forget anyone?

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Legit just flood the zone.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 38 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly I give the iranian disinformation team 1 of 5 stars, a pathetic job really.

I mean, they don't actually need to have the Epstein files, they can just start sharing stuff that seems plausible.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They are making Lego memes that are pretty fire though.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 10 points 9 hours ago

Are they though?

It would be pretty easy to eviscerate Trump.

The videos and memes I've seen are a bit vanilla. More about trying to make Iran seem righteous and wholesome than trying to embarrass Trump.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Their propaganda has actually generally sucked pretty bad this war. They had the opportunity to make the US and Israel (and particularly Trump and Bebe) into a global pariah. They could have started showing videos of schools and other graphic terrible images of people the US has murdered and things they have destroyed. They could have turned the whole world against the US and Israel, just like Biden and Zelinski were able to turn the would world against Russia.

But instead they dug in, started bombing everyone else around them, and made everyone remember why they are hated in the first place.

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah but your plan has one big flaw: the dead are Muslims, which means we (as in the northern hemisphere population) don't give a fuck. See Gaza. We all know. We know children eat dirt because they are starving. We know Israel targets journalists and even NATO forces. We know everything but we don't care.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 58 minutes ago

The 1% who controls the media and our countries are the ones that don't care.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 5 points 9 hours ago

That's a fair criticism.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's not that we don't care, it's that there's nothing we can do about it short of a violent revolution.

You can care about a cause without being willing to die for it.

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago

No, the collective we does not care. I'm sorry, but this is just how it is. They are Muslims so European and American countries do not give a fuck.

[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 21 points 15 hours ago (9 children)

I've been seing stuff like this a lot lately, but it seems detached from reality to me. How does Iran benefit from the Epstein files?

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The idea is that giving the ultimatum, regardless of whether the US obliges or not, would cause massive shift in power. They'd be hoping any changes in leadership would be better aligned with them.

Files released -> Traffickers imprisoned -> New sane leaders sworn in

Files withheld -> Greater discontent -> Elections swing harder left -> Dem majorities force war to end

[–] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

UNO reverse your regime change war goal

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because the whole world's leaders are in there, including a shit ton of bank execs. Trump will stop bombing before he lets the files get out. It truly is a solid plan.

[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Okay sure, having and releasing the Epstein files can be adventagious for Iran. But what I don't see is how demanding the files would ever lead to peace. Wouldn't it only incite Trump and co. instead of getting to a reasonable negotiating position?

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

It would lead to peace by decapitating the enemy.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago

Because Trump is 100% willing to start a war so people stop talking about it. So he'll have to start another war somewhere else...

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's a typical American problem centre of the universe and all that.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 7 hours ago

What are you talking about? This is a war the US started, so of course they'd be the center of discussions on how to stop it.

If trump actually started the war to distract from the files, then Iran using it as leverage is a sensible thing to do.

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The reasoning would be: You're right. They don't care. But he will never voluntarily release them and it results in maximum embarrassment.

It wouldn't be a sincere negotiating tactic but it works because they don't need to negotiate.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

This. Imagine a condition for terms of surrender is to unredact and release all files. And the Trump administration openly says "no" to that?

That would be a TERRIBLE admission by the administration

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

But Iran does need to negotiate. They are being bombed quite a lot right now. Iran is not going to surrender, but they would prefer not to get bombed. Antagonizing Trump is not going to help Iran.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Negotiating with Trump is like negotiating with Putin. It's a pointless theatre that Trump is would do for the benefit of spectators, but with no actual value for Iran because you absolutely cannot believe anything Trump says.

They don't need to negotiate, they needed to be left the fuck alone in the first place, but Trump, like daddy Putin, is incapable of rational thoughts anymore.
Looks like the special operation is gonna last at least until next election, at this rate.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This shooting war is going to end some way, eventually. And the ending is going to be some form of diplomacy, implicit or explicit. Even just agreeing to pretend each other don't exist is a form of diplomacy.

The only case where Iran should not care about pissing off Trump, was if the US was totally annihilated. Trump is a madman with a nuclear suitcase.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Because Trump was above Epstein in the operation and Israel controlled both of them. Plus all the stuff about Netanyahu sleeping with Jared Kushner. The main players in the Epstein files are literally the ones currently trying to massacre their entire country.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

I have no idea if the Kushner/Netanyahu thing is true, but have an upvote because it's funny.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 15 hours ago

I think the thinking is that if you released the epstein files in their entirety Trump would be impeached.

Or maybe that's not really it. If you wanted to harm the US, then releasing the full unredacted epstein files is probably the easiest way to achieve maximum chaos.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Presumably if the couchfucker became prez he'd be slightly less likely to be Bibi's lickspittle because he has at least a couple more brain cells to rub together.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Vance is just a vessel, what does Thiel want? Feels like that guy would be all over war in the middle east and kicking off a biblical prophecy.

[–] pulsey@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Yea, For me it has "this is how Bernie can still win"-vibes.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Demanding Epstein files would be a sure shot way to get bombed.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

As if they're not already?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 87 points 1 day ago (47 children)

They can just hold the world’s supply of oil, ammonia and helium to ransom. Breaking an Iranian blockade by force would require a WW2-scale effort, with the US, Europe, China and the gulf states fighting alongside each other to take Tehran and impose some kind of regime change all parties find acceptable.

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

China and Russia would be fighting against the EU and US in that hypothetical wwiii scenario

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 23 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

why would they want the US regime to change? It's a poor long term strategy, you want the useless idiots to ruin their country, not have them replaced by competent people.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 32 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I think they would prefer people who weren't bombing their country with Israel.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck that, trade it for Trump dead or alive

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago

or alive

No no, let's keep it simple.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago

They already released most of the victims names, they can't really pretend they care about them anymore.

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