That comeback flipped the whole argument on itself. “You lose” has never backfired faster. 😂
this post was submitted on 12 May 2026
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If the christian god exists and the reward for serving him is eternal life in his presence, I will gladly accept the alternative.
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
― Marcus Aurelius
Wow that's way older than I realized!
I know right? Can’t believe it’s been 26 years since the Gladiator movie came out!!
26 years since the Gladiator movie came out
The way I figure it, if God exists he gave me a reasoning mind and provided absolutely no reasonable evidence of his existence. If he has a problem with me drawing the inevitable conclusion from that then fuck 'im.
If you look at it from God's perspective, assuming he exists, you have all of these groups of people who claim to worship him, and the biggest ones all have different holy books, and all of those holy books are flawed. They're even self-contradictory. I think God would be offended if people thought he was responsible for those piles of trash.
On the other hand, if God created our cosmos, surely he'd at least approve of people trying to understand it compared to boring people who ignore the world and just chant the same things over and over.
If god is real im going to try and kill him for creating a world with such evil happening to innocent people.
Any god who creates a place where babies are raped and murdered deserves to die.
If god is real, he has a lot to answer for.
Also:
"If there is a God, he will have to beg my forgiveness."
- Unknown victim of the Holocaust, carved into the wall of a Mauthausen cell[
The platypus. Seriously, wtf?
Australia was his animal testing ground. It was never meant to make it into production.
The concept of absolute forgiveness is terrifying to me. Rape, murder, and make people suffer with greed and corruption all you want ... then say "Im sowwy about all that, forgive me" before you die and into Christian heaven you go. Fuck that. I want no part of that "heaven" ... that is where pure evil will reign, it will be hell.
If I were evil and wanted to corrupt a bunch of religious idiots I would tell them that they didn't have to be decent people, that they could just do what they wanted because a zombie god died for their sins. That would lead them to worship the wealthy and not care about their fellow humans, the suffering would be everywhere. Do you think that could work?
If I were evil and wanted to corrupt a bunch of religious idiots I would tell them that they didn't have to be decent people, that they could just do what they wanted because a zombie god died for their sins. That would lead them to worship the wealthy and not care about their fellow humans, the suffering would be everywhere. Do you think that could work?
That's pretty much the way it works now, so, yeah, start your own religion.
I forgot to informing and yet get you combustor: such a bitch
It would be really amusing to learn that what we call a deity, is actually just a higher dimensional being, a child one at that, and we were just a science fair project that didn't even get a participation trophy.
Would you believe that that is basically an actual plot point / lore detail in Animorphs, if you read all the non mainline series books as well?
Ok I want to know more
https://animorphs.fandom.com/wiki/Ellimist
Before achieving through abnormal circumstance a godlike omnipotence and omnipresence, the Ellimist was originally a Ketran named Toomin. He lived on the Equatorial High Crystal with his friends Inidar, Aguella and Wormer. Toomin could be best described as a "gamer"; he frequently played a life simulation game called Alien Civilizations, very popular among his people, which gave each player an alien species and tasked them with slightly modifying their environmental or evolutionary aspects, so as to cause change over time. The aim of the game was to keep the species alive for as long as possible; if the species became extinct, the player lost.
So, far before the main storyline of Animorphs, the ancient backstory is roughly 'once there was a race hyperintelligent elf-dwarfish creatures, of whom some played very advanced life simulator / god games, and, following a series of extraordinary events, the last remaining one of their kind basically became an actual god / a dimensionally transcendent being.'
... and, the particular one of these that ended up essentially becoming god, well, he was originally ... pretty much a hikkikomori NEET nerd 'failure to launch' 'professional gamer' kid/adolescent, going by the cultural standards of his species, before it was genocided.
So... its like an ancient alien dork who was really into life simulator / god games just ended up gaining so much knowledge and power that he became able to treat reality itself as one of his games.
Kind of. Sort of. Its more complicated and strange than that.
That’s a lot more than I expected. Thanks! I’ll read more
Animorphs is just actually a really good book series.
Yep, the covers are ludicrous.
But to me, Animorphs is basically on the same level as Redwall, very, very good series of books to give to a kid to entertain them, make em more literate, and also expose them to some pretty serious and 'big' ideas and concepts.
A million times better than an iPad.
Also, I guess at this point, they also serve as a pretty good time capsule into 90s/00s culture/lifestyle.
One of the ten commandments is Thou shalt not hold false witness. In other words, do not claim something to be true that you do not actually know to be true.
Everyone who claims God's existence based on their own faith has thus violated one of the ten commandments.
Ask any self professed Christian (of any denomination) to tell you what the ten commandments are and they won't have a clue .... I know several devout Christians who are able to .. but the majority, about 90% of them, wouldn't have a clue
"You lose" is such a weird thing to say. It's implying this is an issue to win or lose on. Instead of you know living a virtuous life. Nope. It's sides that win or lose.
Right? My religion tortures you for not being on our side I rather choose nothing than worship that kind of evil.
Pascal's wager has always been one of the more absurd arguments that collapses upon minor thought.