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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not just in politics, but there's a real problem with people just insisting on repeateded benefit of doubts that someone is operating in good faith...

Over and over again, I keep seeing people think that just because they care about facts and logic, that other people have to care about facts and logic.

That's not how a human brain works, it's never how our brains worked.

Human brains love explanations but hate thinking. If they've accepted an explanation and you try to talk them out of it with facts and logic, a sizable percentage of humans will get confused and just shut down cognitive thinking and fall back on emotion.

That's why so many trolls just blindly throw emotional charged labels around.

You can't say/do anything to change their minds, they've placed you in a box, and that box has a bad word on it. They'll never calm down enough to re-evaluate if that was the right box, now that you're in the box the only thing that matters is the label, they'll never look at anything else.

It's a very very simplified outlook, and once someone has that view it's incredibly difficult for them to dig out of it. Millions and millons of years of evolution have reinforced that false positives don't matter and it's safer to assume the box marked "enemy" only contains enemies.

A false positive means you don't interact with an outsider, but thinking an enemy is safe might mean they kill you.

The problem, as usual, is people running on instinct because they weren't educated enough to prefer facts and logic. Global poverty makes it worse, because poverty makes our brains focus on short term and that means distrust.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's what I see as defining modern politics, particularly in the GOP/MAGA/Conservative groups. Bad faith actors taking advantage of every possible norm to manipulate and get what they want. It's a consistent behavior that Democrats either naively or purposely ignore. Over and over.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

It's exploded past that tho..

Like "everything is political" and all, but it comes up all over.

And it's not just a rightwing thing either these days. Hasn't been for a while.

Republicans dove into it headfirst decades ago, but neoliberals tried for 30 years to see if it could work on enough Dem voters to get us to accept neoliberals.

Look at how Hillary/Joe/Kamala ran their campaigns, they didn't focus on what positives they could bring, just that MAGA was bad and we need to vote against MAGA, any criticism of them and theyd call that person MAGA even if they were left of Hillary/Joe/Kamala.

It (and this should be obvious) was the exact same strategy.

What's fucked is that was the norm for so long, the attitude is becoming pervasive all over society.

That was the entire point of my first comment, not sure if that clarified.

The silver lining tho, is that path failed so badly the voting members of the DNC (they vote for chair when a dem.doesnt become president) finally picked another path. The downside is those neoliberals still exist, still control the media, and are still pushing that same strategy... And it's actually working because people want to believe the DNC is still controlled by those neoliberals, even when the neoliberals are also shit talking the DNC now

Like, I can't think of a more prescient example of people on the left falling for it, than people who are just so used to the DNC being shit, they think the new chair has to be shit, because he's in a box labeled "DNC" even tho that box really only ever should contain the DNC chair, because they are the party and accountable to no one.

So when the old chair leaves and a new one legitimately goes in that box, the box still saying "DNC" doesn't matter, because there was a 100% turnover of "The DNC".

It's as dumb as blaming whoever the next president is for what trump is doing today, and logically it shouldn't be difficult to explain that to people.

But best of luck if you ever try

[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Global poverty makes it worse, because poverty makes our brains focus on short term and that means distrust.

Which, just to complete the thought, is why authoritarians love policies that keep people in poverty, even when they harm society's economic output enough to reduce profits for the oligarchs themselves.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Poor people are in survival mode. People in survival mode don't act rationally and are much easier manipulated.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They don’t care about the hypocrisy.

They never will.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

They do, actually. The ability to be so hypocritical is a demonstration of raw power.

And that? That they love and care about dearly.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I swear, if there's an afterlife, you won't be judged based on how good or bad you were. It'll be based on your hypocrisy.

Example 1

Death: "You were a mob boss. You had many people injured, tortured, and murdered. Did you ever try to fool anyone into thinking you were not a mobster? That you were innocent?"

Mobster soul: "Only law enforcement! I mean, everyone knew I was the head of a criminal organization. I was a proud mob boss! I acted accordingly and never misrepresented myself!"

Death: "You will be reincarnated. We have many worlds in need of villains."

Example 2

Death: "You were a politician, fraudster, and serial philanderer. You took many lovers in secret. Made many promises you never kept. That you never intended to keep."

Politician soul: "Guilty as charged! But hey, I gave millions to charity! I was super polite and never personally physically harmed a single person. I mean, so many people thought I was great! Obviously, that means I was!"

Death: "You will serve in hell."

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Afterlives are just something people invented to make themselves feel better while living in an unjust world. They hope there is some sort of cosmic justice in the afterlife that will compensate them for the injustices of their current lives. Over time the concept was coopted by the powers that be to keep the masses compliant with the promise of a reward that will realistically never come.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there an afterlife or do your final thoughts, fears and regrets just echo for a perceived eternity that is actually seconds, like when a computer hangs during a video and the last played sound repeats over and over and over ..

Or there's nothing, whatever, sometimes it's fun to imagine terrifying nonsense.

[–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If the universe is infinite, then the pattern of molecules that make up your memories and thought processes will eventually be repeated.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

Repeated infinitely