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ACA s1e6 "Come, Let's Away"
As a stinkin' casual, I never watched Enterprise, but I'm glad y'all brought it up. I think I'll go back and watch it now. I've been short on things to watch. I'm watching You're the Worst because Stormfront is in it, for instance (not bad, btw).
I never got the dislike for Enterprise anyway. It sure wasn't as good as DS9 or peak TNG, but it sure was a hell of a lot better than Voyager.
Voyager was always one of my favorites. Discovery was the real dog.
From this juncture, I can only recommend giving Voyager another chance. Starting with s2e16 "Meld" onward, there's a wealth of worthwhile episodes.
As with every post TOS Trek, they must all "grow the beard."
I went through all of Voyager and I don't think it gets better in the later seasons. Most characters don't develope that much, the most interesting storylines were dropped super early, and I really don't like how often consequences are just ignored and the show kind of "resets the status quo".
Until that whole shitshow of a temporal war really started.
I didn't find it that unbearable. But I really liked the Xindi Arc and the shenanigans in the Delphic expanse. Also, the andorian episodes were jusz gold. Granted, those also were Jeffrey Combs episodes, but I generally liked the andorian-vulcan conflict and the approavh to vulcans generally.
Cheryl? Didn't know that.
They couldn't get a headshot of PStew from his agency in time, they had to use a xeroxed publicity shot from "Dune"? The glowy glossy headshots were probably Telexed. If not, they had to be overnighted!
Frakes looks like such a huge dork in that picture hahaha. Love it.
LeVar Burton: The New Spock
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I dunno about that
It's so dismissive!
Levar Burton "The new Spock"
"William Ryker", "Commander Yar"
Enterprise was not bad at all. It's theme was bad. But the show was decent.
Enterprise was not bad at all.
Phlox, rub some decontamination gel on this revisionist history! The worst part was absolutely all the oily creeper shots.
That theme was the shit and I will die in this hill. The first version anyways
The intro for In a Mirror Darkly being the exception.
Always loved the theme. The ship and set design are aces, too. But I’ve never been able to get through more than a handful of episodes of the show itself.
I still think everyone hates Enterprise because of the theme song. I'm currently doing a rewatch of it, and it's good.
The theme did throw me at first but I feel like the show didn't fully come into its own until seasons 3-4. The season 3 Xindi arc has aged beautifully. And the Vulcan arc where the high command is abolished was also very good.
Also in the mirror episodes Hoshi in the crop top made me feel things.
Season 3 was where it got it's beard.
It grows on you as a lichen that's difficult to remove. Not the season 3-4 upbeat theme, though.
Every current iteration has to deal with comparisons to what we could be getting instead, to a greater or lesser degree. Getting this means we're not getting that.
I remember older fans complaining that TNG's existence ruled out the fourth season of TOS that they really wanted, just as I remember being disappointed that ENT's existence put a period on the TNG-era.
(Though I will say that my distaste for ACA is not about lost opportunities but about my failure to get pulled in to the setting and story. I don't mind it existing, though! De gustibus non est disputandum and all that.)
The Prequel trilogy was once the worse Star Wars trilogy. It didn't get better in hindsight, it's just now comparatively less worse.
The Clone Wars managed to improve it somehow, tho
Love The Clone Wars (and Clone Wars, too), still can't watch Episode 2 and 3 longer than the first dialogue.
They have provided us a great fountain of memes, though.
It doesn't happen every cycle.
It's a fact that TV shows have changed over the years. Most of them today are made for people with no focus, to be watched while scrolling the phone, needing everything characters do to be stated very explicitly, everything that happens explained as it happens, filled with cliches,... Not all of them, so there is still a contrast. It is still possible to distinguish between the good stuff and the bad stuff, it's not old people yelling at the moon.
to be watched while scrolling the phone
That perfectly explains what was going on with the very popular show (nothing to do with Trek) I just tried watching. I thought TV audiences were getting amazingly stupid, but I guess they're just distracted.
Get you someone in your life who looks at you like THAT.
I mourn 20 minute episodes. Watching a whole ass movie every time a new episode comes out sucks.
It would the sign of a good group of talented writers ... to constrain them to a 20 minute slot and still make an entertaining and informative show.
I'm with you on the 20 minute format ... I constantly scroll through shows thinking I just want to sit down for half an hour and watch something fast, then go do something else ... instead I end up scrolling for half an hour and then giving up, getting up and go do something else. Or else I'll watch half a 40/50 minute episode and watch the rest later.
On the flip side, I mourn the 20+ episode season. Only Prodigy has gotten a full length season in NuTrek. (They were half hour, your preference.) Strange New Worlds deserved better than only 10 episode at a time, like it was a mid-season replacement, testing the waters.
Prodigy was good :(
I too would happily watch 20 minute episodes about Morn.
Morn For Me
All episodes take place at Quark's.
The joke continues and Morn never has a single line of dialogue.
Every episode ends with Morn about to say something and then credits.
I'd say send this to Paramount stat but it'd make too much money
Lower Decks fits that format and it works considering the medium.
TOS through now is still about an hour, disregarding the 2-parters and feature length episodes. What's changed is season length. 10 episodes is the new norm. Used to be 26-ish.
Idk why I thought they were shorter and these new shows feel like they are so long. Maybe its the A plot B plot thing that packs a lot into one episode.
Pacing certainly factors in. Modern dramas tend to needlessly linger on scenes. Just wish there was more focus on the other characters.
