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[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 94 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Yeah, it's really fucking bad. Pair that with more and more restrictive demonstration laws and regulations, the proscription of Palestine Action which was already shot down by their own legal system as 'baseless', etc etc etc

It's just Starmer's leg up to another cushy job and nothing else. And Labour really showed us what Labour has become: a soulless job machine for the rich and careless. They may as well call themselves Tories at this point.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

What the actual hell happened to Labour? Who can the left turn to now? Is it worth trying to salvage?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What the actual hell happened to Labour?

The Party bureaucrats turned on Jeremy Corbyn like lupus.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

It wasn't just the Party bureaucrats. The main faction behind the anti-Corbyn coup was organised by Mandelson and his Mini-Me McSweeney, with Blair lurking behind the curtains. And the money behind Labour Together was deliberately obfuscated, but much of it appears to have come from donors whose quid pro quo was unconditional support for Israel.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Someone from the UK trans community would know best but from the news I've been following, "Your Party" (i.e. the people aligned with Zarah Sultana at least) could turn out to be the most dedicated to trans rights but they're probably the least likely to win a seat anytime soon, while the Green Party has the right to self-identify on the platform for both trans and nonbinary folks, and is gaining in momentum. Plaid Cymru in Wales also has this.

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do not have a full accounting of what happened exactly but broad strokes are, Thatcher broke their brains and they went New Labour, meaning they would coddle the capitalists even more than they already had been doing. This kept up, Labour became more about getting fancy jobs, the started and supported deeply unpopular wars (especially unpopular among the left), Labour started tanking again and then they chose racism to try and claw back. The only reason they are in power now is because the Conservatives fucked up so much they became functionally irrelevant. But now the attempts by the cons and labs to out-racism each other will come home to roost with Reform on the horizon, quickly gaining momentum, so Labour and especially Starmer are trying to appease both the soulless capitalists who know the end of this economic cycle is coming (and will be disastrous) and the actual fascists of Reform and their voters. They are chasing fictional voter groups that will never vote for Labour while hemorrhaging their actual voter base to the Greens because hey, wasn't Labour supposed to not be a fascist island of job-hopping dickholes?

Oh and a lot of social-democrats literally just died. Not even kidding, in statistics a not-insignificant voter base they had just straight up died and now Labour is standing on their graves going 'please vote for us again, we're racist now please'

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There was an internal coup by the stooges of rich donors, many of them also aligned with Israel's current genocidal government.

Who can the left turn to now?

Your Party looks increasingly like a dead duck, so that leaves the Greens. Ignore the character assassination against Polansky, which will continue, but keep in mind that the Greens have been growing rapidly and don't yet have a party organisation with good nationwide coverage. Also the party's governance structures need to be strengthened to prevent fuckery like the entryism that stymied the Zionism-is-racism resolution at the last party conference. It's got the most open governance system of any party (along with Your Party), which is good, but its openness makes it at risk of being gamed by bad-faith actors, and that part will have to be changed.

Is it worth trying to salvage?

It's worth trying, but it might be better to consider other options. Almost the entire party apparatus and a significant percentage of sitting Labour MPs are aligned with Labour Together. As we saw during Corbyn's time as leader, the parliamentary party is far to the right of the membership. That has only gotten wose as Starmer has purged the few leftists in the party. As for potential leaders once Starmer fucks off, Streeting is likely to be even worse than Starmer, Burnham has already said he'd continue Shabana Mahmoud's Reform-parroting immigration policies and won't attempt to reverse Brexit, and it's still unclear what Rayner would do differently, having once been in Starmer's cabinet.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The capitalists need number to go up. They can't generate more, so offloading costs to and eroding rights of the workers is the easiest way to do it.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

When I left Britain after over a decade living there (to were I had moved from almost a decade in The Netherland, so that was the reference against which I measured Britain), having been there for the 2008 Crash and all the way until after the Leave Referendum and just before the actual Brexit, I was thoroughly convinced that the country in Europe (excluding Russia, which already is) most likely to turn Fascist was Britain.

If you constrast it with that of a country with Proportional Vote, British "Democracy" is already thoroughly subverted, from the voting system itself being First Past The Post (thus the current government has more than 50% of members of Parliament only a little above 30% of votes) and unelected head of state (who has actual power to block laws) and parliamentary second chamber, to the entire Press being either in the hands of billionaires or controlled by boards of people with Royal Titles who went to very expensive, very exclusive schools (curiously called "public schools" in Britain even though only the rich and the upper middle class can afford them) and the Judiciary being entirelly in the hands of the exact same slice of society (not the billionaires, the "lords", "sirs" and public school educated types).

All Pillars of Democracy have long been subverted in Britain and as things started getting worse for the majority of people in the aftermath of the 2008 Crash and the way to local powers decide to handle it (save the Bankers and the Asset Owners, make the rest pay for it with Austerity), the entire system at all levels moved more and more to scapegoating outsiders (the EU, immigrants and later when the consequences of Brexit were felt, the blame for it was "Russia interference" as if almost all of that shit hadn't been mainly pushed by local people such as billionaires and their newspapers) thus redirecting the righteous anger of the rest of society away from the local power elites who did the deeds and are the ones mainly at fault.

Meanwhile at the same time there was the ever tighter surveillance net (that the Snowden Revelations exposed to a large extent, but are other scandals less known outside such as for example how coppers infiltrated Ecologist groups and left behind pregnant women whose children never knew their fathers), which has only been made ever more extreme ever more openly, hence the recent "age verification" legislation".

So yeah, the continuation of the scapegoating trend, the ever more intrusive surveillance and the ever more authoritarian use of force against peaceful civil society groups, are all the totally natural continuation of what was already happenning under the exact same machinery already in place more than a decade ago (whose last parts were probably put in place back when Thatcher approved Murdoch's consolidation of the Press, destroyed traditional Unions, started the Economy down the path of dominance by Finance and other Rent-seeking activities and used extreme Force against the Miners) - the machine just kept chugging along towards its natural destination (there was a hickup when Corby was elected leader of the Labour Party, but all that was dealt with by, with the support of Israeli backed Jewish Groups, slandering him relentlessly in the ENTIRE PRESS - thus neatly showing just how hard rightwing and propagandistic all if it is, including the BBC and The Guardian - as an anti-semite, which by the way goes a long way to explain why the guy who got the leadership of that party after that and is now Prime Minister, is extremely pro-Israel) and that destination are the levels of Propaganda, Surveillance, Civil Society supression by Force behind "It's the Law" excuses and control of the Judiciary that you see in Fascist Dictatorships.

At most the British version of Fascism is just going to differ in being posher (same steel fist, but covered with a satin glove - i.e. the abuse of Force disguised more with "it's the Law", the Press control with "it's the Free Market", the Civil Society Surveillance portrayed as "to protect the children") than the "loudmouth rightwing populist" version of it of the likes of Mussolini or Trump.

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[–] Brummbaer@pawb.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, new labour was the fully coöptation of the socialist party by capitalism and machine politics.

Before that they were at least Democratic socialists so they tried to help the working class a little bit.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

propaganda against lgbtq+ always increase when there is internal economic turmoil CAUSED BY THE same politicians railing on anti-lgbtq+ people as a distraction or START some nonsensical war or sabre rattlling.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

That shit has been painfully visible in the US for over a decade: the Political "Fight" between the two parties of the Power Duopoly in highly rigged voting systems (like First Past The Post) naturally moves to being just the Moral plane and away from all the other things that shape people's Freedom and Happiness (most notably anything controlled by Money) as those parties become thoroughly corrupted (when politicians tell you "Greed is Good", they definitelly also mean it for they themselves) thus having pretty much the same policies in all fields where they can make some "greateful friends" who will shower them with their "gratitude", which leaves Moral as the only field where they can play politics to see whose next with their snouts in the trough.

IMHO in this shit Britain runs maybe 1 to 2 decades behind the US and the rest of Europe runs maybe 1 to 2 decades behind Britain.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

With a First Past The Post representative allocation system and no Constitution (so, for example, the current government which got a bit over 30% of the votes cast has over 50% of MPs and thus can make or change ANY law they want in any way they want since nothing is limited by a Constitution that can only be changed with much more than a simple 50%+1 majority), a head of state who gets their position by inheriting it and an unelected second parliamentary chamber, the UK has never been a Democracy.

Oh, they harp on and on about how they're "The oldest Democracy in the World", which is exactly the kind of compensation you would expect when a certain quality isn't actually true, same as when some people go around claiming they're beautiful, charming or intelligent - if you have it you don't need worry about convincing others that you do.

I've lived in a couple of countries in Europe, including over a decade in Britain, and that country is mainly bullshit (very poshly and elegantly done - just check the way the BBC uses Manufacturing Consent techniques to promote Israel or their constant spinning of news about foreign affairs into "we're much better than them" Nationalism) and the LEAST democratic of all was Britain.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay Europe, show us Americans how it's done. Fix this shit.

[–] EvasiveSpecies@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Europe is pretty fucked too. MAGA inspired political parties (many, if not all, sponsored by tge same people who support MAGA) with the same idiots or evil people you guys have in America in several countries... the future's unfortunately looking VERY bleak. :/

[–] Pandasdontfly@anarchist.nexus 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Basically the world is fucked. Its bad only going to get worse I can only assume this is the start of a trend that is going to take a 80+ years to run its course... Fuck me

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless there's a pandemic of intelligence out of nowhere, it's probably the end of the modern world in some soon-ish timeframe.

Although we are going through an extinction event, and I suppose if it's one severe enough to kill anything over a certain size, humans will probably go along with it.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Looks like the UK will face their own MAGA situation.

[–] redditmademedoit@piefed.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, they kinda already did a decade ago.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We're kinda still in it because the knuckledraggers want to vote in one of the same architects of their own demise

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

Fuck Rowling. I know she isn't solely to blame for this but she is part of it

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Same thing happened in Germany

[–] Ontimp@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you mean during the Nazis' rise to power or recently?

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[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago

Scottish independence ftw 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Democracy is already dead in the UK since the genocide. The rule of law means nothing.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just a reminder that, in politics, nothing is inevitable and nothing is permanent.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's permanent for the people irrecoverably scarred/maimed/killed by these hostile policies.

[–] EvasiveSpecies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

1930s Germany wasn't permanent either... unless you opposed the Nazis or were anything other than able-bodied, able-minded, white, not jewish or any other minority systematically tortured or killed. And people don't learn from history because most survivors are those who haven't been persecuted.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a trans immigrant who fled the US, this is a pattern I've been noticing a LOT. Specifically people downplaying the effects just because it doesn't affect them directly. As they say, the road to fascism is paved with people telling you you're overreacting

(Especially when the president signs an executive order telling trans people "we will find you and we will kill you")

Edit: case in point, look at the negative comments under this post

[–] CyroSignal@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

This isn't normal, we can feel the rise of Reform UK...

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