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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Meanwile, in Finland, we outsourced our fucking vote counting system, to god-damn AWS.

[–] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 2 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)
[–] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 0 points 39 minutes ago

Helaas kunt u niet inloggen

I don't know Dutch but I choose to believe this says "hey cunt youre not logged in"

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 109 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Good

Fuck the US and their bullshit capitalism. Do not trust them. They are the enemy, which feels wild to say but we've long memories, and education, and we've seen this before.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

As an American, I approve of this statement.

[–] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Has anyone coined a term like "digital imperialism"? I think it's quite fitting.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Iannis Varoufakis (there's probably 2+ typos there) has coined something like digital feudalism.

I think it makes more sense when imperialism is between countries like in this case, but if you get rid of imperialism you still have feudalism between the tech companies and the users of their monopolistic products, on their terms.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

I'm American and the US is my enemy too

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Since the article is in Dutch, let me try to provide a little extra context:

  1. It's not actually the company that runs DigiD, that's Logius, who is part of the ministry of the interior.
  2. It's about the cloud-hosting company that DigiD runs on. The DigiD code was open sourced, though it looks like the GitHub repository is now archived (https://github.com/MinBZK/woo-besluit-broncode-digid-app)
  3. It really is used for everything related to authentication with government services. Doing your taxes, scheduling an appointment with the city government for , scheduling a doctors appointment, getting a prescription refilled, on and on.
[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 minutes ago

Scheduling a doctor's appointment and getting a prescription refilled? I've never used my DigiD for that, nor do I think it's even an option here; it's pretty much all telephone. And as for the source code, only part of the source code was published (as a result of 'Wet Open Overheid verzoek': a request for transparency); and I believe they're migrating from Github to code.overheid.nl.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

One wonders why the application "used for everything related to authentication with government services" runs on a Private Sector cloud.

I mean, it's not as if a Digital Cloud is any more than a bunch of servers running somewhere with a direct connection to the Internet.

Then again, this is The Netherlands, which is has been ruled by a very Neoliberal right-wing party (in various coalitions) for over a decade so it makes sense that the government there would have even essential software for interacting with Public Services be operated by the Private Sector.

[–] eodur@piefed.social 43 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If its that core to the country maybe the govt should buy it

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 44 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The company actually inquired, our government said no. That's what you get when capitalists are at the wheel and expect "the market" will magically solve everything.

The title is a bit misleading by the way, it's about the company that hosts the infrastructure, Solvinity. The application itself is built and maintained by a government agency called Logius.

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't DigiD created by Logius, which is part of the "Interior Ministry" to roughly translate into English?

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I didn't had the time to go into that much detail, but that is correct. 🙂

[–] PNW_Doug@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago

As an American: Good!

[–] db2@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago
[–] itrealgood@mander.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

Formal online authentication is apparently everything :p

[–] axh@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's always funny (and sad) when someone from the USA points out that almost all internet services are US owned, not European, it sounds like they did all the work developing the modern internet, and while Americans really did a lot, they also bought a lot of services created in other countries.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

The Web was born in that well known American institution, CERN, invented by that well known American citizen, Tim Berners-Lee.

[–] ragica@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

Turns out the company in questioned already was bought by a UK company, so already isn't even Dutch (or even EU anymore). But at least it's not American (the concern is that American laws potentially give the American government a lot of access to the Dutch citizen data). Companies owned by companies. It gets complicated.

[–] Darthcapi@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago

As an American I love this!

[–] PNW_Doug@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

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