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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Max length would have been hella confusing.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

is there any proof of it being the smallest length? i see that thrown around a lot but no proof for it. why wouldn't there be smaller lengths?

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

It's the smallest length that our current understanding of the universe will allow. Any distance smaller is immeasurable to us. To measure small things you need to be able to hit them with a photon and get a signal back; and the smaller you want to measure the higher energy that photon has to be. The planck length is the distance where the photon you are using to measure has so much energy comparable to the size that the energy density instantly creates a black hole, that swallows whatever you are trying to observe. Thus it is impossible for us to measure smaller than that distance. Things might absolutely exist at scales smaller than that, but the universe seems to lock them away from us.

[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Planck length is the shortest measurable length, not the shortest possible length. We have no idea how we'd even go about measuring anything smaller, because we don't understand physics smaller than that. There could be stuff that's smaller, like even more elementary particles that build everything and determine the rules of the physics and particles that we do understand. Or maybe not. Maybe that's the smallest anything can be and there isn't further sub-Planck physics, or maybe it's just turtles all the way down.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

uhm, so, this is just my uneducated ass talking, but i'm pretty sure that there's no particles that make up ordinary matter below the planck length

and i'm saying this because as you split stuff up, you kinda expect the mass of the constituent elements be smaller than the mass of the total. so if you have smaller mass, you have larger uncertainty. and i think when we talk about the "diameter" of subatomic particles, what we really mean, is the uncertainty of its wave function. and that ironically gets larger when you look at smaller particles.

[–] TypFaffke@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

We'll have to wait for the sub-Planck DLC to drop

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

it's also the measurement for the shortest possible time span

but also the hottest possible temperature.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] ItsMyVault101@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you get when you put a plankmaxxer on a plank?

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ItsMyVault101@piefed.social 1 points 8 hours ago

you nailed that one

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Mad Max Plank

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

is there any proof for this? that there's nothing outside it

planck time is just the time it takes for light to travel a Planck distance, and Planck temperature is just a planck distance wavelength.

not really proof, and more like derivate units.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Planck units are a choice of natural units relevant to cosmology. They aren't the smallest or largest of anything. The Planck mass is roughly the same as that of a fruit fly.

In our current established theoretical framework, there is no reason to presume that either time or space are discrete, nor is there experimental evidence for it.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Planck distance is a fundamental unit, otherwise we get the ultraviolet catastrophe

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Planck constant [Js] was introduced to find a way around the UV catastrophe. The Planck length [m] is defined as \sqrt{\frac{\hbar G}{c^3}}, where G is the gravitational constant and c the speed of light in vacuum.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dude set out to show it was all bullshit and figured out one of the most important pieces of the pie. Mission failed successfully

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kind of like Schrödinger who wanted to ridicule quantum mechanics interpretations with his cat in a box. And now it's a famous analogy.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have also experimentally tested an equivalent experiment with bacteria. They survived a trip through the double slit experiment.

There doesn't seem to be an issue with it, other than it's difficult and impractical.

[–] wibble@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] cynar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anything moving has an associated wavelength. If that wavelength is long enough, you can do the young's double slip experiment on it.

It was a few years ago, so the details are hazy. A scientific team accelerated a particularly small and sturdy bacteria fast enough that their speed produced a viable wavelength. They then sent the stream through 2 slits. They then captured the bacteria in aerogel (I think) to slow them back down.

Most didn't survive, but some both survived, and ended up somewhere they couldn't without interfering with themselves. They successfully reproduced afterwards. The debris also followed the classic ripple pattern of the experiment.

Basically, there is nothing special about "life" when it comes to quantum mechanical effects, other than it's on the big side.

[–] wibble@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So. Something something duplicate an existing life form like a quantum photocopier? Or, what does the interference pattern of a bacteria looks like?

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only 1 bacteria ever arrives. It's the probability wave that interferes with itself.

With the Young's double slit experiment, if you fire a single photon, you get a single photon arriving. It looks just like how a cannon ball flies. It's only when you let hundreds go (either collectively or individually) that the interference pattern appears.

The end pattern is the probability that the photon (or bacteria) arrives at any given point on the receiver screen.

[–] wibble@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the interference pattern only turns up after multiple detections. Each detection is just a single point on a board. This means that the bacteria are identical down to the atom. Feels bigger than bacteria can be pushed through the double slit experiment?

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The bacteria don't need to be identical.

Think of it like rolling a dice. Any given roll can only have a single number. However patterns can be detected by combining multiple rolls. E.g. a biased dice.

As for larger things. It's possible, but the speed required goes up with mass, and not linearly. In theory a person could go through. They would be moving a significant fraction of the speed of light however. Catching them alive on the other side would be... difficult.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] iatenine@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

Explains how both of their surnames entered the lexicon

[–] Sylence@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Get Mercked idiot

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Should have called it the Marie length to have it for herself