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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I don't understand how people can follow a command like this and then go home and sleep at night.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is literally what the US has been doing for 70 years.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't change the question.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago

The answer is propaganda.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

People with thoughtful morals don't join the military. Sociopaths, moral LARPers, and desperate people do.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Well as a subordinate who is given illegal orders they're kind of fucked there's no good choice so that's why it was so important for commanders to only issue legal orders. So they don't put their men in a bad legal situation.

If a solider doesn't follow the command they're given probably going to be found guilty of insubordination, regardless of whether it is illegal or not. They'll probably be called a criminal, lose all the benefits that come from service, or possibly be executed according to this administration.

If a soldier follows illegal orders like these then they can be charged as war criminals and executed.

The ONLY way to be able to refuse illegal orders is to have an enormous amount of support from other soldiers and the judge advocate General's office. Which are resources your average soldier doesn't have. Yes the Uniform Code of Military Justice says following illegal orders is illegal but the reality is very different.

[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Aka, more war crimes committed by the regime in charge of the USA.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

We didn't get 9/11ed enough. We deserve way more.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Goliath holding open auditions for the role of David

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Humanitarian law is also designed to protect civilian objects, including those indispensable to the survival of the civilian population. Article 29 of the Convention on the law relating to the non-navigational uses of international watercourses [available on http://www.un.org/], adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations in 1997, stipulates:

“International watercourses and related installations, facilities and other works shall enjoy the protection accorded by the principles and rules of international law applicable in international and non-international armed conflict and shall not be used in violation of those principles and rules”.

General protection under the law applicable to armed conflicts extends to more than international watercourses, and the four main prohibitions laid down in that law are worth noting:

the ban on employing poison or poisonous weapons; the ban on destroying, confiscating or expropriating enemy property; the ban on destroying objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population; the ban on attacking works or installations containing dangerous forces.

The four prohibitions, to which should be added the provisions on environmental protection, are expressly mentioned in the instruments relating to international armed conflicts, and the last two are also laid down in the law applicable to non-international armed conflicts. Starvation as a method of warfare is explicitly prohibited regardless of the nature of the conflict, and the concept of objects essential for the survival of the civilian population includes drinking-water installations and supplies and irrigation works. Immunity for indispensable objects is waived only when these are used solely for the armed forces or in direct support of military action. Even then, the adversaries must refrain from any action which could reduce the population to starvation or deprive it of essential water.

https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/water-and-armed-conflicts

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Really pushing for that Greatest Satan moniker.

[–] CyroSignal@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (9 children)
[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago

Where is the UN when russia sends drones straight in Chornobyl confinement unit for shits and giggles and proceeds to brag about it for months? Same shit, pal.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

International doesn't apply to the powerful.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

The UN and what army? The UN is nothing more than neutral ground where diplomats and envoys can safely talk to each other. It has no more power than the member states are willing to give it. The US, China, Russia and Israel will never give it the power to intervene in their wars.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Probably writing strongly worded letters to Iran telling them to capitulate to the US.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

Eh in this case its not really that. Most members are staying out of it or condemning the axis of evil (us+israel). Now when I say "condemning" I mean some interview with a government person saying something along the lines of "well it is not a good thing blatant war crimes are going on but we in insert nation would never do such things"

[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 18 hours ago

The UN has no execurive power and stste members pretend veto really matter so they don't act

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[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I love America. Every time I see them helping kill someone I get a boner!!!! /s

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

If you count all the war crimes committed by US soldiers, regardless of who was president, you will come to the conclusion that the US is an imperial, colonial, exploitative power.

Previously, they hid behind diplomacy, the UN, "freedom", "democracy". Donald Trump has portrayed the US as it has been all these years after the Second World War, selfish, greedy, without a shred of empathy.

That is why some Americans cannot stand Trump because he exposes them for what they are.

[–] VoodooMischief@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Hey this happened in Spec Ops the Line

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Meanwhile, the rest of the world thinks that it's okay to remain entirely silent when the US breaches the Geneva Convention.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Most countries remain silent but are very much against the US.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

they are silent because ISRAEL INSTIGATED It, and they dont want to offend either country right now.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

To prepare mentally for if and when Iranians target US civilian infrastructure, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDhuDBjZIkg

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago

imperialism <---> terrorism

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

"Hey! You possibly shot down a military helicopter from us while it was performing illegal operations within your territory! That goes too far, fuck the Geneva convention, you will pay!"

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