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Including a concern that Google's Pentagon deal could mean mass surveillance of EU citizens.

Google's own staff don't trust them anymore... we shouldn't either.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Alphabet lost its "moral compass" more than 10 years ago, what a blind idiot.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s not that he’s blind, it’s that he has a different moral compass compared to us. That’s why he became a director, because he has a flawed moral compass and is driven mainly by money.

Apparently his moral compass does have its limits, or he decided he made all the money he will ever need and is trying to clear his conscience and his reputation.

I believe that's a key distinction. Google's behavior has become too problematic for someone who is significantly morally deficient.

Big fucking red flag here.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That’s why he became a director, because he has a flawed moral compass

Whoa, whoa, hold up. What would "trying to change the system from within" look like? Maybe he had better motives but has now given up.

Jumping to conclusions to fit a common narrative is not how we'd like to be, is it? Are we irrevocably jaded beyond redemption, or can we assume better of people until we know more?

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He kept working there through a whole plethora of morally bankrupt decisions. He has proven his guilt many times over. So, what jumping to conclusions exactly?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

"Guys, maybe the Nazis in the SS were trying to change the system from within? We shouldn't jump to conclusions!"

Sure, it's technically possible they were trying to change things from within. Seeing as they didn't speak up before and continued to work there, as a director, for a long time without any public protest, indicates to me they're culpable in whatever Google was doing. If they want to prove that wrong, they're free to provide evidence, or to take actions that prove it (like leak some damning data or something). We don't always have to wait for evidence to prove something like this though.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It’s hard to see past the money in your unvested stocks.

To his credit, google has accelerated their enshittification, but they certainly were on the shitty company list 10 years ago. But even now I’m told that Android is just better than iOS because it’s “open”, bypassing the fact that it exists solely to provide screens for people to view Google Ads.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Both Android and IOS are unacceptable. GrapheneOS for me, and hopefully once Motorola releases their "shipped with Graphene" devices, a whole lot more people. Anyone who says anything otherwise is a sucker for marketing.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm worried that with all the legal attempts by governments around the world trying to undermine privacy and encryption and enforce ID verification and total surveillance, Motorola might get cold feet about the deal. There are powerful people in many countries who would love to make GrapheneOS illegal.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let's hope that doesn't happen. Graphene is BY FAR our best option, by a large margin.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

In the short term, probably. It's still android though. There's no technical reason why phones can't be running actual Linux though, which provides users real freedom.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

It's not, postmarketOS or even SailfishOS are much better, because they don't depend on Android,

[–] lostepisodesfoundagain@kbin.earth 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

eyyy, another Graphene user.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] tremble5218@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

The irony of GrapheneOS is that it works very well on a Google device, and mostly supports Google devices. I'm also a GrapheneOS user.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

10 billion rich.... Ok they lost their moral compass....

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Just be evil

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 28 points 2 days ago

Management has lost its moral compass

Hahahahahahahahaha

Omfg are you kidding me? You just noticed?

I mean, it's not like they ever had a moral compass to lose in the first place. "Don't be evil" - who needs to say that?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

google lost that shit decades ago.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

“Be Evil” wasn’t a big enough clue?

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

How do you lose something you never had?

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

In a public company there is constant pressure from the shareholders to place people with no moral compass in corporate management positions. It is like an evolutionary pressure. We see the results of this happen over and over again.

[–] ActualGrapesTasteGreen@piefed.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do we pretend this ad company is anything but?

Please enjoy this commercial break before your invasive surveillance begins.

[–] Libb@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

Better late than never...

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago

management has lost its moral compass

PFFFFFTT HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Oh fuck, now that is great a joke!

[–] keimevo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I would love to see a "Careless People"-style book for Google, Amazon and Palantir. Though the Palantir one would probably be called "Evil People" directly.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

They had one maybe in 1995.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

He only wants to help the sfascis US government kill children when they're ruled by Blue MAGA

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 0 points 1 day ago
[–] erie09@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago