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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 1 points 13 minutes ago

Here's a novel concept, stop driving cars and use public transport. The more people who do this, the better it gets.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Roadside parking is kind of a devils bargain. Its space that is public that is being reserved for a subset of the population. It obstructs visibility for drivers, especially now that vehicle sizes have bloated.

What we should be doing is removing (make them into a dead end road stub) redundant through roads using those those as dedicated parking areas. This would decrease intersection sizes and let more heavily used areas be fully dedicated to traffic.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 14 points 8 hours ago

You gotta think there's something wrong with people who voluntarily choose to drive in NYC when there's so many better options.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 22 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Critics argue that those pushing for reforms “hate people who own cars,” in the words of Vickie Paladino, a City Council member who represents a district in Queens that is home to many car owners.

I don't hate people who own cars but I do hate cars. They pollute. They take up valuable space. They're bad for the economy. They kill people.

In 1996, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani moved the city’s traffic enforcement agents, the unarmed civilians who write tickets for parking and other traffic violations, from the Transportation Department to the Police Department.

Fuck Giuliani

The other day I saw a car double parked in Brooklyn. The owner was sitting at a sidewalk table drinking coffee from the coffee shop that's there. A cop walked up and started to write a ticket, and the lady ran up to try to get out of it.

On the one hand, fuck the police. On the other, fuck that lady for double parking so she could just chill out for a while. One of the most walkable neighborhoods, and there's a stupid amount of free, available, parking around there.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Either Technology Connections or Not Just Bikes dropped this into one of their recent videos. "Everyone hates cars. Even you. Even car guys. Everyone hates cars, and I'll prove it. How do you feel about other people's cars on the road? See? You hate cars. Other people's cars, but you hate them."

This needs to be chanted at every single city council meeting and urban planning department.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Growing up nearby, sometimes my school would have class trips into the city. Being on the buses and seeing the traffic from within was enough for me to decide, "I never want to drive in NYC."

I've only driven inside the city proper twice in my life, and it was as awful as I expected it to be. Trains are the way to go, no question. Stations that go there are abundant in the nearby areas, and the subway can get you almost anywhere you need to within the city, with walking for the rest. Pedestrians dominate crosswalks, traffic lights be damned, like roving herds migrating to the next watering hole. The light turns green for the vehicles, but there's still two dozen people stepping off the curb - traffic waits for them to pass.

I can't imagine living there and owning a car at all. Even if parking weren't an issue, it just doesn't make sense. You need incredible situational awareness, abundant patience, but also the ability to make merges and turns within tight spaces while surrounded by drivers who see your emerging presence as a threat. Both times I've driven there included near-accidents from other drivers.

If you're thinking of visiting NYC, for your safety and sanity, do not drive there. If you're traveling by car from somewhere farther away, do yourself a favor and find long term parking by a train station outside the city. This is not hyperbole, driving in the city is a miserable experience that you do not need. It's one of the few places in the US where pedestrians rule the roads - embrace it and get your steps in, and take the subway for longer distances. Your legs might feel sore by the end, but it's worth it, I promise.

I also grew up nearby. My first and only time driving in NYC was for work. I was 19 and my boss was having a bunch of us go renovate his wife's apartment in Brooklyn so he could rent it out. So we all meet at the shop and proceed to follow him to the city.

This fucking asshole starts driving like he's in a race in his brand new jeep suv, I'm in an old ass work van. I managed to keep sight of him till we got to the Lincoln tunnel before he just disappeared. When I finally got through the tunnel I had no fucking idea where to go. It was the early days of smartphones and Google maps was just useless inside the city. It took me a few hours to get to this guy's apartment. Trying to figure out the city with all the traffic was stressful as fuck. Finally somehow find my way to the apartment and this asshole starts berating me.

I should have called him a stupid asshole but being a shy anxious 19 year old I just apologized and took it.

[–] bajabound@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

The few times I have had to drive in NYC - just drive like you're playing Mario cart, the rules only exist for people who follow them, and from my experience, no one does.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Counterpoint:

I live in a suburb to the north. This week I drove in for a concert at Radio City. There was traffic and crowds. Those are expected in a city. An app provided a method to secure a parking spot before I left home. At the show, we met several folks that had traveled large distances to attend. After, the street crowds were celebrating the Knicks' win with enthusiasm. We grabbed some street food and drove home on empty streets.

I find it nice to know that I am so close to so many of the world's best museums and other cultural highlights.

Driving has trade-offs. The ability to come and go as you please vs. carefree travel. Taking what you want or being limited to what you can carry. Commuting is best by transit. Special or occasional trips are best by car.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I disagree, but respectfully. I'm glad driving in the city has been less stressful for you, but even for special occasions, I always opt for the train. I usually bring a bag/backpack full of water bottles, and maybe sunscreen at this time of year.

The only downside I can see is if mobility is an issue. If walking for long amounts of time is a problem, I can see preferring your own car. Otherwise, I don't mind walking multiple blocks to get to each of the museums. Though, I do wish the museums had longer hours. Every time I've gone to the Museum of Natural History, I've felt rushed along, because it closes at 5:30 for some reason. There's just so much cool stuff to see, and never enough time to see it all.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

You can solve that problem by just parking whenever you like!

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

The vast majority of street parking is free, but there never seem to be enough spots.

So add off-street parking in multi-story parking garages and have a fee on that.

goes looking

https://www.bestparking.com/new-york-ny-parking/neighborhoods/new-york-city-parking/

It looks like there is pretty decent multistory parking garage coverage in Manhattan. It's just not free


it's actually pretty pricy, as parking garage rates go


and the street parking is. Unless there are zoning restrictions preventing construction of more of it, though I mean...that's probably just part of driving in a very-high-density city.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 6 points 11 hours ago

I would rather use that space for homes for people than cars.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

If you just built more free parking, more people would drive into the city and you're back to where you started.

[–] silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

1% of the time doesn't sound bad

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

1.7% of your waking hours

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] halfapage@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I did this! -whoever it's cool to hate

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 13 hours ago

!fuckcars@lemmy.world

[–] Seppo@sopuli.xyz -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Drivers are always the least productive people in a city. They are bad for local businesses and the general health of the population. There are no downsides to removing car traffic from cities.

[–] incompetent@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Drivers are always the least productive people in a city. They are bad for local businesses [...]

How are they bad for local businesses? I'd think having more customers would be good for business.

*Edit: I'm in no way defending cars; I believe there are more downsides than upsides. I just don't think being bad for business seems logical.