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    [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

    I'd use it if it's as good as systemd.

    [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 hours ago

    I had to check the sub, as that was convincing!

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

    My favorite systemd moment was when Lennart and Kay shouted "systemdeez nutz!" in the kernel mailing list and then proceeded to systemd all over the place.

    [–] aurelar@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 hours ago

    Don't give them ideas.

    [–] khanh@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago
    [–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact Systemd/Linux, or as i've recently taken to calling it, Systemd plus Linux.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    Here's the thing. You said "Systemd/Linux is Linux."

    Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

    As someone who is a scientist who studies Linux, I am telling you, specifically....

    Eh fuck it, you get the idea

    [–] bilb@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    I wonder what Unidan is doing these days.

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

    Probably still playing with his jackdaws.

    [–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

    Hardwared killed me. Am I crazy to assume it will be available for both x86d and x86d-64d?

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)
    [–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

    Since it's "open source", we could start experimenting with our own circuitry, implementing the new Booleand logic: ANDD, ORD, XORD, NOTD and all that good stuff. See if we can tinker together a few instruction setsd.

    [–] jdr@lemmy.ml 53 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    Format your drive with ddd

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 14 points 17 hours ago

    disk destroyer deluxe

    [–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    You had the chance to call it SystemdOSd and somehow you missed it. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

    Also why aren't you including the most important piece, systemd-antivirusd?

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    [–] rektstarsceosu@lemmy.zip 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    rmd -rfd /d --nod-preserved-rootd

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
    [–] rektstarsceosu@lemmy.zip 6 points 13 hours ago

    i always run my shelld as rootd 😎

    [–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Userd is not listed in sudoers.filed. Lennart poettering will now teleport behind you

    [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago

    Nothingd personelld

    [–] fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 15 hours ago

    D-Bus Daemond is superceded by systemd-busd

    [–] communism@lemmy.ml 19 points 21 hours ago

    Enjoying the term daemond.

    [–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago

    I'm hyped for the systemd web browser and systemd 3D modeling software. It will be the full system one day.

    [–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

    Minor notes, then we can begin implementation

    Only systemd is in PID1, login, journal, etc are their own PIDs

    Surely we'd use pipewired, not pulseaudiod

    Graphics and system ram may be unified, so we need a RAMArbitord that is shared between the main kernel and DRM blocks

    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    PulseAudio? We are at Pipewired now!

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

    Absolutely, but I guess the joke is that Pulseaudio was also a project headed by Lennart Poettering.
    Pulse was much hated by some, but actually brought substantial improvements to the Linux audio stack at the time.

    The transition to Pipewire however has been amazingly smooth by comparison. I haven't detected any downsides, and the switch caused zero issues.

    [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I honestly thought systemd-homed seemed like a pretty sweet idea, last time I heard about it. Of course it was mostly just people screaming how systemd was literally hitler for even suggesting it

    [–] black0ut@pawb.social 3 points 8 hours ago

    Arch adopted systemd-homed and, at the time, I didn't even know what it did. But it somehow borked my system. I never needed it, it was added for no reason, and like a lot of systemd features, it broke stuff.

    I'm still salty about systemd-networkd messing up my network. Or about systemd-resolved taking over my custom DNS.

    I have so many systemd packages blacklisted atp, and I don't even want to. But they keep breaking shit.

    This is just an anecdote and it may not be representative of anything, but that's my 2 cents.

    [–] esc@piefed.social 10 points 23 hours ago

    Almost every project under systemd umbrella is great, most distros really underutilize it's capabilities.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (8 children)

    This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time.
    Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshittification.

    Remember before systemd the most popular init system was upstart, and upstart was buggy as hell, with very serious bugs that existed for years without being fixed, because the basic design of init systems made it very very hard (impossible). and upstart was arguably the best among the rest. But because Ubuntu also switched to systemd, upstart has been deprecated because Upstart was an Ubuntu project.

    systemd was an entirely new design strategy that fixed errors that had been impossible to fix with traditional init systems.
    However some still prefer System V init, and I think Gentoo still uses that as default, I suppose because they find it better (easier to use) for tinkerers that micro-control everything.

    But IMO the design of systemd seems like pure genius, really a solution to a problem that needed fixing.

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    Remember before systemd the most popular init system was upstart,

    For 5 years; maybe. Before, during, and since, sysV is still the most popular.

    And, as dictionaries, politics and Windows will tell you, what is popular is not always best.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

    Yes upstart was relatively short lived 8 years:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart_(software)

    But Ubuntu did put some effort into improving the init process with Upstart, and it was the fastest init system until systemd beat it by being way way better at multi threading.
    Ubuntu also massively improved how well Linux worked on laptops, and upstart was part of that effort too.
    What is best can be subjective, being the most popular signifies that most people found it to be best.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    SystemD itself was fine. Not great but better than what we had and I was happy with what it did.

    But then it started to sprawl and take over things it had no business doing.

    At this point I am no longer using the Linux kernel, I'm using the SystemD kernel, and as soon as Poettering feels like it he can simply sell the rights to SystemD to a big corpo like Microsoft once everything fully depends on it.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

    There were pros and cons, I get the annoyance with the binary vs text files.
    But systemd booted faster than upstart, despite upstart was made for speed and systemd was made for being robust. The robustness of systemd however made it possible to make the ini process multithreaded and still work flawlessly, where old ini systems tend to have race conditions that make it near impossible.
    systemd is more robust, faster and more flexible, so how it wasn't great remains a mystery to me?

    [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    I’d wager most folks aren’t even sure why systemd was β€œcontroversial” and don’t remember a time before it, but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

    Ive been riding SystemD for its faults since the beginning. The age verification was just one more on the pile.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    A lot of the controversy against systemd was pure bullshit.

    but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.

    My guess is you are right, but age verification is not an idea of systemd, implementing it is an attempt at making it possible to fulfill a legal requirement by some countries. It's stupid, but stupid is now planned to be legally required in some countries.

    [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 4 points 22 hours ago

    Yep, turns out technology enthusiasts who have a vested interest in an operating system are an opinionated bunch

    [–] SigHunter@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

    Gentoo offers systemd and OpenRC, not SysV

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    [–] gooeyglob@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

    Replaced my third system with artix and could not be happier.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

    That's pretty much what GNU is about, just technologically superior.

    [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago

    Inevitable.

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