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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this ones my favorite

recut the butthole release!

wait no kym did me a silly





report this to your syndicate gary

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 23 hours ago

Save your prayers of love and peace, or you'll wake the thought police.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Don't forget how this cartoon originated:

  • 2021-01-06: Failed coup by pro-Trump degenerates storming the Capitol (Trump denies involvement but his tweets from the day definitely played a role, as decided during the impeachment proceedings in the following week).
  • 2021-01-08 Trump is banned from Twitter in wake of the scandal.
  • 2021-01-08 Donald Trump Jr. tweets: "We are living Orwell's 1984. [...]" (Yes, shown as Jan 9 shortly after midnight but that's in UTC)
  • 2021-01-09 Conservative artist Gary Varvel publishes this cartoon.
[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seriously? Man, I thought it was a satire piece the whole time. This was meant to be taken literally?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, it's by a guy who thinks inciting a violent attempt to overthrow a major democratic institution should be protected as free speech. And did not even come up with the 1984 reference himself, just parroting Don Jr. See this video by Jacob Geller about why such a wide spectrum of people points to Nineteen Eighty-Four, that's where I got the information from.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well to be fair, the US declaration of independence is quite explicit about the right to revolution being one of the inalienable rights. They spent I think around 20 written lines talking about it.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

Of course, it doesn't mean their causes were just or their intentions were good or even that they were much more than an angry mob, but America was literally founded on the idea that a corrupt government should be overthrown by force. What is bad, how it is bad, blah blah blah depends on where you sit and if you value human life or human hierarchy.

[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

No fucking way. What a moron.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago

We were assigned that book in my Canadian Prairie school during the 70's. It was called "Celsius 232.778". /s

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Literally "Brave New World".

[–] Tarkcanis@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

This soma is deeply disappointing...

[–] OldSageRick@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

With the amount of times I see it where it has exactly 0 connections to the book, or is even used by a person arguing for it...

We really should glue orwel to a stick, with the amount he is turning in his grave we would provide free electricity for everyone and still have some leftover

Hmm, that's the kind of thing that might create a brave new world.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

Fahrenheit 451 on the other hand is about people only watch TV nowadays, modern art is too abstract and minorities censor racist books. I'm surprised the Right doesn't use it but I guess they lack the reading skills to realize this is actually for them.

[–] MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've watched a 45 minute video about exactly that topic and now it's really amusing to think back about the points whenever such a meme comes up.

Here is the Jakob Geller video :Why does everyone think "1985" agrees with them

Great recommend

[–] OldSageRick@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Ah jacob, my beloved

He also made a great vid about executions, although it was in all honesty quite hard to watch

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

233°C, if anyone wondered.

[–] EisFrei@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago
[–] elvith@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago

Yes, almost certainly. Apologies, I thought that was obvious.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

I dunno, Celsius 233 has a bit of a ring to it, too.

Yeah, but I wondered if it was only because we're used to it - if the book/film had been called "Celsius 233" all along, then perhaps it would work just as well?

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so... to my right?

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The temperature at which books burn.

[–] koorool@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes. Only it should have been 451° Celsius. It was a mistake in the book name.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This does not appear to be correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoignition_temperature gives the point for paper as "218–246 °C (424–475 °F)" which roughly matches the title as published.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

average of those two is 449.5, which is 1.5 below 451. like, oh no he missed one of the averages by 1.5 degrees because he asked someone because he himself did not know, and was still within any reasonable margin of error. burn him at the stake.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

No. It's the guillotine for this exhumed corpse.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, it's the person I was replying to who was saying that Bradbury made a mistake by saying 451°F, and that it should have been 451°C. I cited the range to demonstrate that Bradbury's number was roughly correct and 451°C is very much not.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

No it wasn’t. Bradbury asked and was told that was the autoingition temperature of book paper

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you roll tobacco or cannabis in it, it will eventually

[–] Xell22@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Jokes" Who tf is joking about these references, we're frantically trying to pull the wool from your eyes but its seemingly impossible.

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago
[–] Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app 4 points 1 day ago

Is that what temperature a frog boils at?

[–] content_educator_94@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Brave New World is so much better than 1984 it hurts

Plus Orwell is so overrated it's just silly

He was essentially a British intelligence asset writing thinly veiled anti communist propaganda.

Orwells writing often is masquerading as "a commentary on authoritarianism in general" while in reality it was mostly just him hating on the Soviet Union.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've always liked them as a set. I think neither of them on their own are as good as the two of them contrasted against each other.

[–] Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

man really burning a dead comic aren't we..