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Often when I hear about a harrasser, a gamer, or anyone who people generally don't like, who is a constant source of antagonism and threat, they every time correlate such a person with two unhygienic and lazy, truth is the people who do all this, threatening journalists online, harassing people, especially women, or any number anti-social things which actively harm people mentally or physically or both ways, they rarely if ever fit description given by many even on the left, they are often well dressed, well to do (financially and health wise), well read and educated, and most of all, heavily social. A social awkward person is rarely a harrasser, a harrasser is someone who is openly social but feels like they have been denied some power, so who actually possess these things? Who is unhygienic? Who is "lazy"? Truth is, when people are describing someone they don't like, they're describing a person who is in a situation they can't escape from but they think said person can, you can't tell a severely or chronically depressed person to just get up and shower, someone who doesn't even have will to move can't just get up to do anything, same person is considered lazy for same reason, let me be clear, no one is lazy, there's a reason a depressed person is considered lazy for trying to cope with their condition but a streamer isn't when a streamer sits in front of computer and just argues with people on internet. The reason everyone, left, right, center, calls their enemies fat, unhygienic, or lazy is because the people who actually possess these traits are the undesirables, you can't call anyone the r-slur now so they use approximations, fat (physical mental difference which is irreconcilable and needs to be accepted or rejected) unhygienic (same) lazy (same) you can't suddenly give someone a stronger spine or change their neurotype so everyone who can't be thin, prim and proper, and working with full productivity is for all intends purposes a non-human to most of these people. Sad thing is most people don't struggle such extremes where they can't fit in, they're just divergent enough that they can fit in with a little torturing themselves but those who can't, well you can see how disability issues are treated in broader left.

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[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah the average fascist is the blandest, most assimilated mfer possible. What's gross about them is how uncanny their level of conformity is. Once in a while you'll have somebody like Asmongold, but the ideal they propagate now is neurotically tidy guy in a suit that is a size too small to show off that he works out. Bunch of bank clerks trying to look like Clavicular or Andrew Tate. And they try to act like that, too. They literally cannot talk to people without making a play for dominance.

[–] Letztertod@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Even Asmongold is so much of a standard in streaming/gaming circles, this is what "respectable" youtubers look like.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A social awkward person is rarely a harrasser

I just don't think this is true at all.

[–] Letztertod@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I personally think of it like this and I wrote it with this kind of mind "a socially awkward person isn't more likely than anyone else to harrass someone but they might be less likely because they don't go out since when I was a socially awkward teen I rarely talked even online" I didn't mean to dismiss anyone's experience and just wanted to say that people who think that a socially awkward individual is more likely to harrass someone are wrong and only think that because that's the trait of undesirable person, for example a neurodivergent person.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

have to weigh the propensity for avoidance against the likelihood of being completely unaware your actions are being recieved as harassing, which is the only definition of harassment we operationally care about.

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

Exactly this. Instead of targeting true bad behavior, we target the traits capitalist culture deems undesirable and do the ruling classes job for them.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

what's his face that streamed world of warcraft and is now a horrible political takes guy literally lives in filth.

i think my standards change a little when you could hire a team of maids and personal chefs and effectively buy more hours in your day

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

It's an unfortunate truth that more successful people are also more attractive people. Hasan is a big deal party because of his himbo status. As much as I want us to focus on facts and ideology, people just aren't wired to make decisions like that.

Drives my autistic self up a wall