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[–] ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The infinite tribes, labels, and subgroups of our political climate makes any rational discussion impossible, and real problem solving incredibly difficult

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 4 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I laugh when I see self-described leftists say that AOC, Mamdani and Bernie Sanders are too far right for them.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 hours ago

AOC and Sanders don't want to abolish rent-seeking, so that's definitely farther right than I'd prefer. They're still obviously better than most of the Democratic and all of the Republican party, but they're compromises.

[–] ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think if you ask 100 random people to define what (political) left&right are, that you'd likely get 100 different answers.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t know the right seems pretty unified.

[–] ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I know plenty of people on the "right", the only thing they truly agree on is that they're afraid. They don't really hold any consistent political or moral philosophies.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 hours ago

And a good chunk of them think that they're moderate and only lean right, yet they're for mass deportation, masked ICE and CBP officers, higher "defense" budgets, etc while being against abortion access, drug legalization, social services, LGBTQ rights, etc. So long as they know one person further right than them, they are forever moderate.

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I mean, that's fair. They are still too far right. But much closer to the socialist utopia

Fucking /s for those who need it

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not sure exactly what a liberal is, but nobody seems to like them.

Way too much jargon in the political comms, I feel.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

In the US it means exactly "Not conservative (or centrist)". Same as left-wing, progressive, etc. There just isn't really any distinction or nuance, and I only learned after joining Lemmy that outside the US, liberal has a completely different meaning, and basically means capitalist as far as I can tell.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

and basically means capitalist

Liberalism is the ideology that created the modern meaning of democracy.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Klear@piefed.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Edit: sorry for the wall of text. I had some time during my morning coffee and it got out of hand a bit

The issue with the US is that only having two parties warps and squishes all nuance in political discourse. Everything gets forced into one of two boxes. Plurality reduced to a binary choice.

Conservativism is associated with right and liberalism with left, but it doesn't have to be. We have a communist party - definitely economic left, but it's packed with old conservative fucks, with focus on the so called traditional values, hoping to return to the good old days, when they were the only ruling party and they could throw people in jail for reading the wrong book or having long hair. And their voting base is mostly uneducated rural folks, much like the GOP.

Liberalism stands for personal freedoms - expression, religion, movement - hence the name. The state's role is supposed to be to facilitate these freedoms. Think feminism, LGBT or environmental protection rather than the "government can't tell me what to do" libertarian types.

Overall the idea is the opposition to the totalitarian forms of government - monarchy, communism, fascism - that we have faced in not too distant ~~future~~ past (god I hope the typo is not a prediction), right here. I suspect in the US these are much more distant, abstract, easy to think of as bogeymen rather than a real threat.

Liberals are the people in power roughly half the time usually lowering the deficit and improving the quality of life for a bunch of people who typically don’t give a shit about it.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

your posts are always the dumbest centrist genocide-fellating garbage. But hey, at least you got a single person to comment.

You’re the second and if you look at my comments I am very against all genocides.