Then you shouldn't have backed it then, should you.
Why do politicians never seem to understand how the job works until it's soon late?
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Then you shouldn't have backed it then, should you.
Why do politicians never seem to understand how the job works until it's soon late?
"We want to install a great big electronics facility that sucks up all the human drinking water!". Geez, I wonder why it's not more popular?
Because he doesn't care about that and so he assumed no one else would either. Most politicians are sociopaths and they seem to assume that everyone else is secretly a sociopath as well. Especially on the right.
They ain't worth the resources they drain because people keep giving them huge incentives. In Virginia for example they don't even pay sales tax, pocketing $1.6 billion a year.
If you can buy a local politician for 0-100k dollars and youre a business that makes that in seconds then you can do a lot of damage.
Imagine the failed democracy, where the elected representative says that what failed him was pursuing his own agenda, instead of the will of the people he is supposed to represent.
Oopsie poopsie
I like AI, but reckless placement of a data center is a stupid thing to do. Like any useful structure, such as power plants, it should be placed into a location that is suitable for the task, built to code, won't harm the community, nor destroy the ecology.
It is very revealing of politicians when they willfully throw themselves into the Krazy Klown Kar that underpins the elite's economy.
CRY! CRY! CRY!

SPREAD IT! SPREAD IT FAR AND WIDE!
I wish I could get this on an animated T-shirt
We should be working on making animated t-shirts with science, not these dumb LLMs and datacenters. The future is now.
animated T-shirt
This seems like a harmless 2026 wish that will become everyone’s 2035 Black Mirror nightmare technology, where your clothing - your entire body - is now covered in a nonstop, blinking, endless advertisement space
Shades of The Illustrated Man. Moving tattoos.
The Culture Series of book "Surface Detail" has a protagonist called Lededje Y'breq who has an infinitely detailed, moving tattoo. pretty dope scifi
Oooo, now that’s different.
If tattoos could move… but only a little… like, just a small, subtle motion, it could give them a whole new mystique…
nonstop, blinking, endless advertisement space
for real. hopefully my ad-blocking glasses will work there too.
also - human adverts become the new low rent influencers, with people professionally walking around sticking adverts everywhere
I think we just wrote the plot for the first episode of the next season of Black mirror
As long as the episode ends with everyone getting naked
Is that Mamdani?
Yep! It’s him with Ms. Rachel
Thanks!
this is 🔥
I wish, oh I wish, I could say it was mine. But I ripped it from elsewhere.
I ripped it because it was such fucking gold. I had to spread it like chlamydia.
And you have to spread it, you have to spread it too!
Lmao, I think I first saw this one on a post about Russian's crying about their gas prices/queues.
Boo fucking hoo, the consequences of my (in)actions
awesome gif, thanks, downloaded
It's not a banger, but I'm just going to leave this here.
How is this not violating a noise pollution ordnance
Serious answer? It probably does but the US government has put such things on hold for 10 years, to push the AI bubble the Trump family heavily invested in.
You being tonedeaf to the wants and needs of your voters lost you the election.
hes being bribed by the techbros, of course hes tonedeaf.
I did something that directly hurts my constituents, why don't they like me anymore?!
I can't wait until this legitimate concern over environmental issues meets up with the reality on the ground.
I work at a DC. We have closed-loop water cooling. We have the same amount of water as a single residential swimming pool in our pipes. It is RO, de-ionized and hyper pure, purchased and brought by a tanker truck. It was filled once, more than a year ago and no more has been "used" since. The toilets use far more water than the servers.
Other companies DO abuse the environment. We would welcome legislation requiring this practice (and others) to make it a level field. There is no need for any DC to behave badly.
What's the power scale of yours?
I suspect the big ones use evaporative cooling because they're trying to build in the gigawatt scale and IIRC there was talk about single racks reaching a megawatt soon, currently they're ~150 kW.
The power density of those new nVIdia GPU compute servers is nuts and using evaporative cooling means less energy use than closed loop.
What I'm saying is, some of those planned datacenters wouldn't be feasible with closed-loop water cooling. And yes, I agree with you that this should be legislated. If they can't cool their servers without evaporating a bunch of drinking water, they can... have fewer servers.
We are rated 16MW. Small within my company. Half of that capacity consists of Blackwell racks at 135KW per rack. We use closed-loop at all our sites no matter the size. And we have some BIG ones under construction.
Data centers can be built in a responsible way, but the big ones aren't, instead they are built with the dirtiest and most resource consuming means possible because that is the only way to build them as fast as possible.
Responsibly built data centers of the future should be obliged not only to use closed loop systems but also actually use their huge amounts of heat instead of merely wasting it. Feeding distributed heating systems (or alternative ways of productively using that heat) should be obligatory. I know the situation is not the same as with gas power plants for example but it is incredibly wasteful not to use all that heat for something productive. We are talking about many MW here. For reference, the fairly sizeable waste incinerator plant Spittelau in Vienna has a capacity of 400 MW. There are currently data centers being built in the US with capacities higher than that and absolutely nothing productive is done with the waste heat.
Strict regulation is needed but not only that. Those gas turbines would be actually already illegal today. Laws are not enforced anymore for the oligarchs in the US. In other countries that nonsense would not fly already today.
We are known for building big ones fast. You just need to know how and execute with care an skill. Good people are expensive, and we pay well. So we charge more. And our customers know we hit all of our targets, so they are happy to pay.
The waste heat is difficult to use as it's not that hot. We don't have steam coming off the servers. They have to stay cool, after all. The water is significantly cooler than many domestic water heaters.
Gas turbines are a fucking nightmare. A move of despair. When our hens are running full bore during tests, we are well under 60dB. Our groundskeeping crew is significantly louder. And modern diesel is nothing like the majority of old trucks on the road today. No odor, no smoke, low-sulfur fuel, etc.
It can be done responsibly. We do it everyday. But trade secrets and NDAs keep us from speaking outside of anonymous forums like this.
That's why I said it is not the same as in gas power stations. It is perfectly possible though, the cooling loop doesn't have to have the temperature of domestic hot water. That is what heat pumps are for. They have built data centers doing it already in 2017.
But that would cost more money! Then line might go up a little less! Won't anybody think of the poor investors!
We do. Less local resistance=quicker build=more money sooner.
Yeah the problems with all these data centers are largely solvable. The power usage part wouldn’t be an issue either if they were also investing in sufficient renewable sources to power these things, but instead when they don’t just dump the burden on whatever is already there they’re always reopening ancient coal plants or setting up gas turbines.
Another power issue in some areas is that these and many other enormous energy hogging facilities get cheaper power rates than residential customers.
They should be paying at least as much per kwh as I am, and in fact, I feel like they should be getting charged way more to encourage them to reduce their power consumption and/or convert to renewables. And in the meantime, use that "way more" to lower my bill or offer real financial subsidies for residential solar installations.
Yeah, necessities should always be cheaper for individuals than for businesses. Worst case if the business can’t pay for it: it shuts down. Worst case if an individual can’t pay for a need: the individual straight up dies.
There’s a lot of things I think should be the case that are more likely to happen though
We do invest in local electrical capacity.we always build more capacity than we use.
There's still going to be an opportunity cost. You can build massive renewable sources, but powering a data center with it is a shit use compared to other things.
As with most things, the problem is never the technology itself, technologies have problems, and we find solutions for those problems, that's what we do, that's how the progress of technology works. But nobody these days wants to let us have the solutions to the problems or even know what they are, when they can monetize a temporary remedy they can sell to us instead. And the problem is profitable, so they want to force us to have the problem; they won't let us stop using the problem technology either. Vulture capitalists preying on civilization and waiting for all of us to collapse from exhaustion so they can feed on our wallets, not caring that they're watching us die.
It’s because they do t like how we organize with technology. They’re taking their toys and going home. None of us can have computers anymore, it’ll all be cloud tablets they control.
WHY couldn't the Voters just LET him take his Bribes! WHO needs Water anyways?
Your lack of scruples cost you the election, motherfucker.
This is the way.
Serious mypillow guy energy, with less stimulants.
I misplaced my thoughts and prays. I don’t care enough to find my thoughts and prays.