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[–] CyroSignal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

The US be like :

[–] Hxrmit@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 hour ago

Trump is just farming low honor for the bad ending atp

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 38 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

I just looked this up. Why are anti-fascists now looked at as terrorists? Isn't it good to be against fascism? I am a little confused at this whole thing. Could someone explain in layman's terms.

[–] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 hours ago

Because the usa is a fascist state

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 61 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

At the risk of sounding glib, but I'm completely serious, the US state is fascist. It's not about good or bad, it's about the state cracking down on its opposition. And it's not just now. Opposing fascism 'too early' in the ww2 period before the US joined the war, say, by supporting the leftists fighting in Spain would get you targeted for repression in the purges of the 50's we call 'the red scare.'

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 14 hours ago

You see clearly.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 25 points 15 hours ago

When the government is openly facist they label anti-facists as terrorists.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 10 points 14 hours ago

Not if you are a fascist country.

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world -5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

antifacism seeks to disrupt the status quo. their messaging could be anything, national socialism wasn't actually socialism. people don't believe we are under fascist rule. all they see is a group of individuals seeking to disrupt the status quo and rock the boat which is analogous to terrorism. Hope you weren't just being willfully ignorant, as understanding the mindsets of people who aren't terminally online is important to actual change

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Antifa isn't an organization. You're "against fascism". That's it. It isn't a statement about being 'for' anything, that's usually the other side of the person's sign. Fact is, fuck fascism, details unnecessary.

I'm antifa, I'm "against fascism".

I'm also antishootingmyselfintheface, antitakingmeth, and I've been antiexcessivegrassinmyyard for almost 20 years now.

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I am highly disappointed in otherwise intelligent people, who I align with repeat this tired response. I never said it was an organization, I know what antifa is and isn't, and yeah I'm antifacist but this messaging and logic tells you you didn't really want to address my comment. I said this fails to even attempt to reach the understanding of the average US citizen. If you think like this, and aren't just repeating the responses you've seen online, I don't think you understand people, period. Acting like antifa is not a modern movement that subscribes to an ideology and is something that is just to be expected of a good member of society is why people are easily convinced of the fascists attacks on the idea under that name and enables the messaging of the movement to be handwaved or persecuted.

I'm anti-entertaining that communicating this way is common sense.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 5 points 5 hours ago

I'll skip the insults and your self-masturbation and get right to the meat, if you don't mind.

Acting like antifa is not a modern movement that subscribes to an ideology and is something that is just to be expected of a good member of society is why people are easily convinced of the fascists attacks on the idea under that name and enables the messaging of the movement to be handwaved or persecuted.

Acting like it is makes its own motivations seem like those deemed by a collective and not individuals making their own minds to decide for themselves (and gives the ICEstapo something to target). If a large number of people see something as fascist, it doesn't make them 'members of antifa', if anything, they just have a concience and common sense. What's the old addadge. "Reality has a leftist bias?"

But that's all we're both doing for our own headcanons, isn't it? 'Acting'. Neither you or I can speak on what antifa is for everyone claiming it. It doesn't even represent its own manifesto to question, so it feels a bit irresponsible and ego-driven to deem a purpose for it when we're just two raindrops in antifa's gutter, leaderless and self-enlisted.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 14 hours ago

Pardon me ma'am, your ignorance is showing.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 38 points 17 hours ago

JFC, y'all! It wasn't over a zine. It was over moving a zine!

[–] Ok_imagination@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

What the fuck is a zine? A magazine?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 15 hours ago

Yes, zine is short for magazine, but the word carries additional connotations such as handmade or low production, anti-capitalist/fascist, and freely distributed

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

When I think of a pamphlet I think of the trifold thing or something similar, a zine would be several pages usually, probably staple bound. Though not as big as a proper magazine. I feel like a small pamphlet would be a postcard, or a one-sheet, or a leaflet, or something.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

That's fair!

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

The other comments give the answer, but if you're interested in the history of them, the Wikipedia article has a good bit of it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zine

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What person are we talking about here? Sorry I came into the comments to look for the article and I didn't find anything

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 37 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

After a three-week trial, a jury found eight of nine protesters guilty of “providing material support to terrorists”, among other crimes. For the Sotos, this “material support” included owning a “printing press” used to print anarchist zines and being part of a leftist book club, the federal government argued. The couple had already left the scene by the time guns were drawn. All eight of the defendants sentenced so far have received unusually harsh sentences – 30 to 100 years – essentially life in prison.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jun/24/prairieland-texas-ice-protests-zines

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

Fuck that sentence. Terrorism my ass

[–] trainsrkool@lemmy.ml 14 points 15 hours ago

dont worry, im sure bluemaga will be all over this! Righttttt after november for some reason, vote bluemaga-no-matter-who!/s

[–] Tiocfaidhcaisarla@hexbear.net 7 points 15 hours ago

Anyone else hear will-fancy pronounce zines like it rhymes with mines lol

[–] iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

no pedos from the island of trump rapes kids?

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Excuse you but this thread is about SERIOUS CRIMES like pushing a magazine that hurts feelings, not trivial things like the industrialized rape of children. ~/s~ ~obviously~

[–] iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Its good enough for trump... Nah fug that hang treasonous people

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Apparently one of the prosecutors was named Kyle Shideler, truth is stranger than fiction.

pissing and shidding and hitlering over people doing 4th of July fireworks in the wrong location