The dog owner needs to control his dog. UPS driver did nothing wrong by defending himself.
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The UPS driver also took his stuff off and approached aggressively squaring up to a guy that is walking slowly forward with his hands down. Maybe he was legitimately afraid for his life from the dog, but he's looking for a fight.
He also pit up his hands to defend his gead, and does not throw a punch = defense not attack
I know there is a lot going on here but I just want to point out that UPS dude was really skilled with that throw.
UPS drivers don't get paid enough to have to deal with shitty pet owners bullshit. Also, who gets in trouble when they get bit? They do. Might as well protect oneself.
I can understand the reaction to the dog in the moment, but what followed was just over the top escalation.
Fight or flight response was still going and turned to FIGHT! human nature is messy.
Bro do you even exist? Throw a box at someone's dog you best be ready to square up against the owner regardless of how many toddlers that pup ate that day. Dog owners threaten people just for looking at the dogs wrong.
Except his didn't just "square up", he aggressively stepped towards the owner with a very threatening attitude and posture. That wasn't just getting ready to defend.
I would too. I'd be shouting things like "hey dickweed! If you like deliveries - ever - you're gonna control that dog."
But you can't see how the owner was approaching him. Could have been proportional.
The only approach I see is hands out in a "the fuck are you doing, dude" kind of way. Even if the owner ran out yelling, driver's response is over the top. Just keep walking away.
Yeah, audio really is needed to understand the situation.
The owner could have changed his stance after the guy reacted. Because it looked like he was just walking away at first.
bullies never expect to get an aggressive response so it immediately checks them
Escalation seems like it's the go-to for most people in the USA
That driver was having a day.
You can say his reaction was over the top, but we don't know what he's gone through recently. He snapped, and there may be a good reason for it. A job like that can tax anyone's patience.
Although, I have the impression that UPS treats their drives a little better than FedEx or Amazon. I'm surprised it wasn't an Amazon driver, those guys have PTSD from their jobs.
fuck no, people who own dogs like this loose and aggressive danger are assholes
only reason this didnt escalate is driver went in hard and that fuck nugget had no time to build himself up
i bet if he was polite it’d be the asshole starting a fight
You can say his reaction was over the top, but we don’t know what he’s gone through recently. He snapped, and there may be a good reason for it. A job like that can tax anyone’s patience.
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