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A scathing report on how badly NASA and Boeing fucked up on the Starliner crew vehicle intended to ferry crew to and from the International Space Station.

The latest eight day Starliner flight, with two astronauts aboard, turned into a nine month stay on the ISS because Starliner had so many problems on the docking approach that NASA didn't trust it to return the astronauts safely to Earth. Eventually it was detached uncrewed safely and was landed under automated control. A Crew Dragon had to be sent up with two fewer astronauts than planned so that the stranded test flight astronauts could get a seat back to Earth.

There's good news though. Both Boeing's Starliner and SpaceX's Crew Dragon are fixed-price contracts with payments on certain milestones. These aren't the old-fashioned "cost-plus" contracts where the contractor could just bill for every expense with a fat margin on top. Boeing has actually lost money on Starliner already, and they have to eat that loss, they can't bill NASA for it. Boeing actually got the larger contract, because their pet senators argued that Boeing was the more experienced and reliable contractor.

To put things in perspective, Starliner's lifespan from the awarding of the contract to the present day is longer than the time between the first artificial satellite and the first crewed moon landing.

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[–] DasRav@hexbear.net 3 points 14 hours ago

It's fine, it will be even more late ten years from now!

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Boeing doing their best to make SpaceX look good

[–] someone@hexbear.net 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Spaceflight news for the past decade has basically been a lot of heartbreaking. SpaceX's ownership consists entirely of shitheads, either the really famous one or various investment firms. But their scientists and engineers who are doing the actual work really do know what they're doing.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago

The Falcon and Dragon are legitimately good systems.

But also,

When you're in a scamming the government competition but your opponents are Boeing and ULA.

[–] cornishon@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago

There’s good news though. Both Boeing’s Starliner and SpaceX’s Crew Dragon are fixed-price contracts with payments on certain milestones. These aren’t the old-fashioned “cost-plus” contracts where the contractor could just bill for every expense with a fat margin on top.

I somehow doubt it.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it's boeing it's not going (to space)

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if it's not boeing i'm not going (to die)

It's pronounced "boing" now, like "Boeing! Our planes bounce."

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It'll arrive at the same time GTA 6 does.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I googled it to see what it looked like and it's just a fucking pod??

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just a fucking pod is the correct shape, that's not the problem. The problem is everything else about it.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

im sorry but that's not a "starliner" though it's "just another capsule"

I thought it'd at least be an attempt to make it look like a "ship" like the SpaceX thing if they're gonna call it a "starliner"

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Ship" is actually a stupid and bad shape to make a thing that has to go up and down through an atmosphere.

Yeah I know but I'm still not gonna let them get away with naming a POD like it's a SHIP. Come on, have ye no anger for false advertising?

[–] someone@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My opinion is that the only true spaceships ever built were the Apollo lunar landers. Everything else has either been uncrewed, a space station, or part aircraft.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Valid and cool opinion, and thinking in that vein I'd be even more picky and only count the ascent module.

But really, a spaceship as we imagine it still hasn't yet been created. A vessel entirely for space, never intended to enter an atmosphere or touch a surface, but purely to move people and supplies between various orbits.

The nuclear shuttle of the original STS plan would have been one, had it ever been built.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

water ship

air ship

rival ship

space ship

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago
[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Y'know, recycling JFK's speech:

But if I were to say, my fellow citizens, that we shall send to the moon, 240,000 miles away from the control station in Houston, a giant rocket more than 300 feet tall, the length of this football field, made of new metal alloys, some of which have not yet been invented, capable of standing heat and stresses several times more than have ever been experienced, fitted together with a precision better than the finest watch, carrying all the equipment needed for propulsion, guidance, control, communications, food and survival, on an untried mission, to an unknown celestial body, and then return it safely to Earth, re-entering the atmosphere at speeds of over 25,000 miles per hour, causing heat about half that of the temperature of the sun — almost as hot as it is here today — and do all this, and do it right, and do it first before this decade is out— then we must be bold.

Is a lot less inspiring when applied to the length of the extension of the project...

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

"It is therefore absolutely urgent that we cut back on those pesky safety measures so we can deliver on time"