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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Certainty lends no truth to folly. An absurd claim may be answered with an absurd dismissal.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

And the Lord said, “If you lay with that infant, you shall burn in the fiery pits of Mordor!”

  • Book of Arnold
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (5 children)

As a recovering Catholic, it is doubly funny because hell is not even biblical.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ah! I see you've read the Bible and like most people it led you straight to atheism!

[–] MrSelfDestruct@piefed.zip 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The renaissance period is responsible for hell and the visualization of Satan.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It was more the Greeks.

Yes a lot of how we see satan in iconography or whatever came out of the renaissance, but the idea of a place of torture in the afterlife has its roots in Greek mythology. (Specifically, Tartarus,)

That said, Jesus definitely conceived of a place of eternal torture for people who didn’t agree that he was all that.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

How many cats did you have to make you finally realize you were Catholic? Did you have to rehab and give all the cats away?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Didn't Jeremiah have something about a lake of fire or something or was that just the desolation supposed to follow Jerusalem, I am not the best bibblical scholar I just start cults for fun

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Most of what christians mentally picture their afterlife to be was written by a 14th century Italian mad-lad with a chip on his sholder and an axe to grind with multiple popes. Its all sorta blended together these days.

Ill give the other abrahamic cults credit for their attenpts at maintaining a faithful translation or opting to not officially do one at all. Makes keeping track of who believes what easier.

[–] HostilePasta@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hell is absolutely biblical, in the new testament. For example it's discussed in Matthew and second Peter. It's not a thing in the Hebrew bible. Dante's hell is not biblical in the least.

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where? The only one I can think of is Jesus saying there's a place where there's wailing and gnashing of teeth, which could easily be the DMV or the Internet

[–] HostilePasta@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

He speaks of Gehenna (geennē, γέεννα in Greek). Properly "The Valley of The Sons of Hinnom", a place (according to the BDAG) where the final judgment was to take place and the unbelievers would be thrown into the lake of fire.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every instance of the word “hell” in an English bible comes from a completely different word in the Hebrew and Greek, ones with meanings like “the grave.” Jesus does spin a parable about Hades once. The same Hades portrayed the Disney cartoon Hercules. It is still not “hell,” though.

[–] HostilePasta@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, "Hell" in the Hebrew bible is Sheol, which is more like "the grave" or "underworld", though the HALOT notes the root is uncertain.

Gehenna, though, as seen in Matthew, is the place where the final judgment was supposed to occur and the unbelievers would be thrown into the lake of fire.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Gehenna — Valley of Hinnom — is a real-world place. At the time of Jesus, it had a horrifying reputation as a place of human child sacrifice to pagan gods. A place of death and evil shunned by YHWH.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All us musicians have been responding "hell? Oh goody! That means we finally don't have to do church music" for the last two thousand millennia

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, why wouldn't I want to go where all the cool people are. We'll make it work.

Yeah, I hear gluttony and making good food also drugs usings, which are cinnamon rolls, are also bird sins. And Christmad God is either a transgender bird or a gay whale, if I read my Bibble right WHICH I DON'T I want to make that clear right from the start this time. So why would I not want to go where OH THEIR GOD sent his most reliable servant to take care of tastiness?

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well, I always tell missionaries knocking on my door: you are telling me that I could be a murderer, a liar, a thief, an adulterer, an overall horrible person, so long as I sincerely repent before I die and accept Jesus into my heart, and I will go to heaven? How is that more moral than being an atheist who is an overall good person?

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My grandfather, atheist for all my life, always invited the missionaries in to talk. When I asked him why he said they are good helpers and you just have to act like you are curious about what they want to say and they will do all your chores while they tell you about Jesus.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What!? The ones visiting me expected coffee and cookies

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah coffee and cookies is way cheaper than fifteen an hour

[–] 5715@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] jve@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Seems nice.

[–] BurnedDonutHole@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I always say we'll see won't we and they look at me like cussed their mother.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I like asking which heaven or hell? Mormons have this thing called eternal darkness or some shit and you need to be really bad to go there. But they also have 3 heavens, with the bottom class heaven for heathens like me.

I kind of hope it’s like a resturant. Yes, i’ll have the Heaven of the day, hold the damniation. Yes, yes, i’ll take an order of angel wings and a harp. No, lets save and get just silver, no need to be flashy.

Or better yet, which heaven did the Christians go to? I’ll take the other heaven please.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"Personally, I think you've got it backwards. I'm going to heaven. You're going to hell. Agree to disagree!"

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would GLADLY go to Mordor. Sure its dark and stinky, but theres a chance I get to see Rivendell and Hobbiton...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I would GLADLY go to Mordor.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Buddy, this is Eh- eeeh- double Hockey stick, pal!

All you're going to see is Minas Morgul and Shelob's Lair!

[–] WappleFF27@feddit.online 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Being called "edgy" is funny when they tell you that there's this horrible pit of emoness and death and fire and hot metal chains and trenchcoats and darkness and satan that you're going to go to.

Sounds pretty edgy, bro.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] WappleFF27@feddit.online 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are the Satans cute?

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago
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