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[–] Hundun@beehaw.org 1 points 36 minutes ago
[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone notice spellcheck went dogshit since AI? It flags any common sayings instantly, but takes forever on actually misspelled words. Then I click for a simple correction and it can't make heads or tails on what the word was supposed to be, even if google search figures it out just fine.

I'm only gen z and I remember spellcheck working way better than this.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago

Yep, it's not just you.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Proud google hater for over 20 years now. 😁 I just don't understand why they're still relevant at all.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I just don't understand why they're still relevant at all.

Largely because thay are a defacto monopoly in too many areas.

Unless some viable competition emerges (or some anti-trust legislation breaks them up), they're hard to avoid.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

Just tried this and couldn't reproduce. I thought it might be to do with the context - e.g. if the person had been referred to with female pronouns already, but couldn't get anything from that, either. I then did a few other experiments to check that it was working.

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In German, there is a correction for the sentence about Martha, but not for the sentence about Marcus, which is all correct. In English, there is no correction for Mary even though I refer to her inconsistently within a couple of sentences - so maybe this has been special-cased since the screenshot.

[–] GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 159 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So this must be the Antifa I've been warned about... by the fascists.

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They officially killed that motto some years ago

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

Eight years, to be precise.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Can't expect anything else from google given their love of genocide and hatred of privacy.

[–] wezzzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Yes you can!(js expect spyware and genocide)

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

That's fucked up

[–] alapakala@quokk.au 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It does. And it's buggy. Not the colab, but some critical bugs in basic things. Opened an issue and it's got no attention in months. Even though I love OSS, Nextcloud can be a PITA.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Word correctness is driven by societal use. Just like you can add a word not recognized to a spelling dictionary, there could be a way to modify the grammar rules to not correct certain things that you will be using frequently. At least it doesn't autocorrect.

As a side note, don't some gay couples call one of themselves the wife? Which interestingly doesn't seem to be allowed in legal documents in many countries where gay marriages are legal, the term has to be gender based. California seems to have the best solution for the future, "spouse1" and "spouse2" on their documents. Which technically still has one of them listed first... o.O

[–] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you are misapplying the principle of "words are how you use them" here; "his husband" is used not-infrequently and is grammatically valid to any English speaker. There is nothing to correct in the original text.

What this is using, however, is statistical frequency of use, which is a different thing altogether. And you know what relies on statistical frequency of language like this? LLMs.

English is full of words and phrases that have secondary meanings, and even obscure or contextual meanings that are real and correct! We cannot cede less popular language choices to AI spellcheck or we lose our own voices and experiences. Acknowledging that gay people exist is a tiny microcosm of this, but it's important in many other ways too.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

There isn't anything to correct, and that's why it's just highlighting it, for the human to look at it because it is a statistical use consideration. If it was used not-infrequently then it wouldn't have been triggered. Isn't that how basic non-AI grammar and dictionaries work, and how actual dictionaries consider adding and removing words each year? Archaic and evolving use is still valid if it's understandable in its context. I get what you're saying, we should use such things in our text to convey our own thoughts, and thereby make it more statistically valid in the future, but this isn't the machine trying to imply gay couples don't exist. Again, there's no autocorrect here to prevent the human from just looking at it and saying, no, that's correct.

The real question from a technical pov here is what kind of usage statistic does it take before a conventional grammar checker swings away from flagging something as unusual? I'd think it would have to be rather low to avoid lots of markings. And what sources are being used to evaluate this, and how often?

[–] cally@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sort the spouses alphabetically

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Unlix86@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

BRB changing my name to Aardvark.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 14 points 1 day ago

Marriage is between spouse 1 and spouse A.