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They helped arm AQ in the 80s via operation cyclone in Afghanistan via Pakistan it doesn't seem odd to me that either bin laden was a CIA asset with aid from Isreal or that mossad was using 9/11 hijackers as assets to launch attacks on American soil and allow for more draconian laws and further interventions

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

According to the former CIA guy that is doing rounds on the intnernet, Israel knew about 911 but didn't warn the us but that is about it. Not as if that isn't bad enough.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 1 points 4 hours ago

What about the dancing Israelis? Weren't they confirmed mossad agents?

[–] equinox1146@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago
[–] yesman@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Is Israel and Zionism not bad enough in reality that you have to write an Oliver Stone script to jazz it up? Is genocide too boring?

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz -1 points 4 hours ago

At this point Israel should be assumed guilty until proven innocent. It would be more surprising if they weren't involved somehow

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

no we know saudi arabia funded and trained the hijackers and the bush administration (pnac) overlooked it to let it happen as a pretence for war.

[–] Taki@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The most devastating part of the conspiracy was never the act, it was what was done afterwards. The lies, wars, torture, etc. that had nothing to do with the original act or holding those people responsible.

Not that understanding the details of what happened isn't important, the real devil is how we used it as an excuse to create terror.

[–] Taki@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago
[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

No idea who. But there's plenty of evidence to show that the American financial elite, at minimum, knew exactly what was happening and when.

  1. Building 7 was involved for no good reason. Despite being nowhere near ground zero, it was mysteriously set ablaze, then fully evacuated and demolished.

  2. Building 7 is the location where evidence was being stored and the biggest financial crimes of the past decade, including Enron, were being investigated.

  3. The section of the Pentagon that was attacked also held evidence and personnel investigating high-profile financial crimes.

  4. The WTC buildings were full of asbestos and required to undergo a lengthy and expensive abatement process. For this reason, the owner acquired the buildings in early 2001 for a mere $900 million. The abatement was required to be completed by Jan 1, 2002 but was never scheduled. The project would have taken approximately one year. After the buildings were destroyed, the owner collected a $1.2 billion insurance payout.

  5. In the days leading up to the attack, a HUGE number of puts were purchased against American Airlines and United Airlines, the only two airlines involved in the attack. Every mathematician and statistician who looks at the numbers say it's indistinguishable from people buying based on foreknowledge. Despite this, investigators concluded no one could have possibly know ahead of time what would happen.

Who's involved? Who orchestrated it? How much of it was planned, and which parts were done along the way out of opportunism? Us normal folk may never know.

But I'll tell you one thing, anyone who buys the official narrative is being fooled.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 4 hours ago

Any source or bread crumbs for point 5?

[–] Taki@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago