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You know what causes PR damage? This bullshit.
Ok if mods are cheating, that's fine. Who cares if people cheat on their own experience of a game they bought? Oh no, someone is "cheating" at Megaman 🙄. Someone is cheating at Resident Evil. So what, Capcom? Why does it matter? Who are they impacting besides themselves?
Online issues? Different story, so just make sure those people can't play online. Gotta tell ya, though, the overwhelming majority of mods don't do that, and when they do, the devs have already put something in there to deter it. Most mods on multiplayer games are model swaps and reskins (really, it's all just big titty mods)
Instead, Capcom, give us mod tools. Do what Bethesda does and give us a whole-ass creation kit, that way, your game can remain relevant for over a decade and make bank every couple years when you rerelease it. Skyrim isn't beloved for the vanilla experience
-Sincerely, a Monster Hunter modder
Ok if mods are cheating, that’s fine. Who cares if people cheat on their own experience of a game they bought? Oh no, someone is “cheating” at Megaman 🙄. Someone is cheating at Resident Evil. So what, Capcom? Why does it matter? Who are they impacting besides themselves?
Yeah, unless it's multiplayer, a gamer should be permitted to cheat however they want. Adult gamers need to take care of stuff and don't have time for such eccentricities. It's not only big publishers like Capcom, though. The indie developer of Project Warlock likened quick saving to cheating and his artistic intend was not to allow that. Die in a map and start from the beginning. WTF. Those publishers/developers need to realize that gamers are paying customers and need to treat them this way.
And most mods aren't actually cheating anyway. They are cosmetic changes, new equipment, gamepleay alterations, and sure, some are intended to make the games easier, but there are those that make them harder too
Yeah, like Calamity for Terraria.
My brother in christ, OG Terraria was never this fucking tough to beat. People created new layers of difficulty for bosses, like how is that cheating. It took me about 100 hours to beat that game while duplicating resources, because it was so hard. Even next-class weapons and armor didn't make late-game bosses easy. But oh boy how great was the feeling of defeating the SCal. That was many years ago, I don't even know if they added another fuckton of content.
Who cares if people cheat on their own experience of a game they bought?
Yep, that's me.
I have a family, a job that burns my brain out most days, and other hobbies. When I play games, I like to just turn off my brain and shoot bad guys with impunity. I don't have time to actually Gut Gud^TM^, so I often cheat a bit and never play multiplayer.
It works for me and anyone bothered by that, including Capcom, should fuck off and worry about their own lives.
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Mods that violate public order and morals cause PR damage.
Counterpoint: literally nobody is blaming Bethesda for the stuff you can find on Loverslab.
16 times the genitals
16 times the niche restraints
16 times the preggo mods (Why are there so many? How many do you need?)
16 times the sex animations (FNIS says theres a few thousand animations for the lewd mods alone)
16 times the weird masochistic mods
16 times the really creative unironically good mods
16 times the non-adult mods (why would you upload normal mods to LL? I don't get it.)
16 times the non-adult mods (why would you upload normal mods to LL? I don’t get it.)
It someone's kink to upload non-adult mods to Loverslab.
Before or after they stir up petty drama on Nexus?
Both, got to make it a good party.
Welcome to 2004. This is where they source both their opinions and their artwork.
I don't know, Morrowind and Neverwinter Nights had existed for two years back then, so not even a shared opinion in the industry.
2004 was the year of Hot Coffee. There was a lot of "mods are bad mkay" going around back then.
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drawing moustaches on pictures of people is basically murder
though seriously due to mods being third party content there is some real damage, but thats actually solved by better mod support and providing a trusted store(like steam) rather than cracking down on mod scene and forcing people to visit shady websites to get them. but the csuits are probably way too good at their jobs to get that
Maybe I'm misremembering because it was a while ago, but I remember a time in the early 00's when it seemed like mod support was practically the norm. It's when I switched to PC gaming, and WHY I switched to PC gaming. Games used to specifically have mod sections in their main menus. It was encouraged. RTS' especially were great with that, coming out with map-makers and creation kits. Mod support keeps games alive, and I can't believe how game devs haven't looked at the financial success of Skyrim and not realized it's because the player base gave everything bigger titties and skimpier outfits
Counter-Strike started as a mod for Half-Life. Team Fortress was originally a mod for Quake. DOTA was a custom map for Warcraft 3. Project Reality was a Battlefield 2 mod that has since morphed into Squad. Brutal Doom inspired Doom 2016/Eternal.
Modding clearly has powerful potential, if only developers will acknowledge it. They certainly used to! I spent a lot of time playing Tribes RPG, Sven-Coop, countless Doom WADs... it seems like when everything became a console port, publishers figured it wasnt worth the effort.
It lives on in indie games like Terraria, Factorio, 7 Days to Die, and the handful of AAA publishers smart enough to get out of people's way. Seems like Capcom might be losing their grip on reality because Monster Hunter has really benefitted from modding.
You know I've put a couple hundred hours into Skyrim (which is a lot for me), but I've actually never modded. You've just convinced me I need skimpier outfits.
Oh I remember this YT channel that had weekly showcases for Skyrim mods.
Sure, skimpy and booby mods were plenty, but some added better textures, luminescence and shadows, sky details, just everything imaginable.
When Bethesda released the 'upgraded' Skyrim, they made a vid of selected mods that for free gave much better visual experience than IIRC $40 're-release'.
And that's just graphics. Add quests, items, NPCs, areas, everything else you might want.
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It is in Thailand. Draw a mustache on a picture of their king and your ass goes straight to jail
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Fuck, I've committed genocide then.
Here is some free PR damage courtesy of me, for Capcom having a shit take
"When asked about the success of games like Skyrim due specifically to the wide variety and quality of mods Capcom responded: What's a Skyrim?"
Capcom doesn't even need to look at Skyrim, Monster Hunter World and Rise are modded to hell and back and it really does improve the experience.
Even resident evil and devil may cry have decent mods. They are mostly visual (costumes, vfx, stuff like that) but I still enjoy them a lot
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Mods that violate public order and morals.
Looking at you „Turning Mr X into Pikachu“ Resident Evil 2 mod.
This is the downfall of civilization as we know it. Turning Pikachu into Ganondorf in Smash was the early warning sign
100% they're doing this to set up for selling cheats as microtransactions.
Some of their points are technically correct, e.g. that mods can increase the support workload if they don't work properly.
Then again, even rudimentary mod support can mitigate that simply by displaying the fact that the game is modded in an appropriate place (like the start menu, log files, or the launcher if present). Then support can ask for that first and tell people to disable or uninstall their mods and call again. Boom, support workload reduced.
This is less possible with competitive multiplayer games but even there you might get away with something like a Stellaris-style checksum system. Simply declaring mods to be bad is just lazy.
that mods can increase the support workload if they don't work properly.
What grognard goes to the game's official support when a mod doesn't work?
Plenty of people do. Especially since broken mods can cause problems like unexpected crashes that might not be easy to trace back to the mod. If the game automatically sends in crash reports, a popular mod becoming unstable might generate significant work for a while.
A mod-aware game wil usuallyl point out right in the crash log that it's modded and might even enumerate the mods. Makes it real easy to find out that "Jake's Improved Graphics for 2.3 Continued" is the shared culprit.
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This is the same ~~Capcom~~ that published Neverwinter Nights? The game that still lives on because of mods and fan made expansions?
Atari.
Just checked the box. I'll see myself out.
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