Liam repeating NATO talking points. Guests saying drivel like “AMLO is liberal trump”
When will @wtypstan answer for the crimes of the podcast.
Liam's dad tweeting at him that the podcast's definition of Communism could have come directly from the CIA was amazing
Liam isn't funny and as far as I can tell Alice is only on Trashfuture because she's so unfunny that she makes the other hosts seem funnier. Franklin was a fantastic piece of dry wit and I mourn that its death was necessary to birth a mediocre podcast.
Franklin obviously took a lot of effort, meanwhile WTYP research is like 30 seconds of skimming wikipedia most of the time. It makes sense why he moved to the latter, unfortunately.
The early WTYP episodes clearly had a bunch of research put into them. It's very low-effort now though.
I subbed to Justin's Patreon for Franklin content and as soon as I started doing that he never put out another episode. It's the only Patreon I've ever been subscribed to. Cancelled once they started doing WTYP.
Justin should kick those 2 freeloaders out and get the mcmansion hell person as a cohost
Because they're giant libs, and the pod has never been good anyway. WTYP is one of the weirdest fucking interests I've seen people on this site share. Watching a couple episodes of it made me feel like I'd just realized all my friends are really into My Little Pony or something. Like, harmless, but god this is awful.
I think it got a lot of goodwill by being derived from Rocz's solo YouTube stuff which was actually pretty good, class conscious urban development and planning stuff. His dry delivery kinda gave him the air of a based lefty Plinkett. Genuinely sad that the YouTube stuff has been left to die in service of the podcast.
Still waiting for that next episode. His cities skylines stuff got recommended on the sub if I remember correctly and was a big moment for me understanding more about better urban planning and how it impacts our material conditions.
I think the first few episodes had a lot of promise, and the Atmospheric Railway episode has a similar energy to it to early Chapo bits like when they talked about the Noid. But where Chapo evolved into something consistently decent WTYP burned out its energy and evolved into something consistently boring, honestly idk why people listen to it any more either.
I wish they'd replace Liam. He doesn't really add anything in general and his politics are so far to the right of the other two hosts. It's like bring your kid to work day.
Rocz and Liam are best friends irl, big time drinking buddies, codependent alcoholics, and Liam regularly alleges that his alcohol addiction saved him from his heroin addiction. So good luck getting him off that podcast lol. Any time Roczniak has been approached about what an asshole Liam is he goes full "I will always defend my friends!!!" mode.
Like my dad always used to tell me
The people you spend time with says a lot more about you than your mouth does
Of course, he'd say it in Spanish and usually because I hung out with the goth kids in school
Liam's dad has better takes than Liam
Bring Liam's dad on
episode 200 should be liam's dad dunking on the other 199 episodes
Liam's dad go on chapo
There was an episode where he drops off halfway to watch a fking baseball game lol
Based tbh
It was a premium episode too lol
(I pirated it)
the best thing they ever did was that time they found out RBG died in the middle of recording an episode and everyone started cackling maniacally
It’s wild that WTYP was the podcast that helped me realize that the USSR wasn’t all gulags and sadness just two years ago.
Liam is 50% oppositional defiance disorder and 50% internet tough guy poured into a failed comedian, he sucks and makes the podcast mostly unlistenable for me. The guests seem to usually be whoever they've noticed is very active on twitter which makes them statistically skewed towards being insufferable
There are sometimes bad takes on the podcast. Since I took this name, I've moved further left. I can forgive basically every episode except for the palace of the parliament one, which is godawful. The Berlin Wall episode also did such a poor job talking about Nazis in West Germany that it almost makes my list too.
Ppl here like to shit on Chapo, (rightfully in many cases)
But they have never been as bad as these 3 chucklefucks
And chapo is actually an edited product and isnt like 30% dead air and ppl talking over each other
it is not a good podcast and i'll die on this hill but then again most podcasts are not good
Engineers are usually iffy when it comes to anything that isn't directly tied to their area of focus
Rocz is the only engineer on the podcast though. And frankly, his takes are usually the least iffy of the 3. Though come to think of it, that's probably because he usually just sticks to the engineering side of things
The guests they invite though are frequently worse than Liam, in my opinion
Peak bad guest is that time they had some rando youtuber who went so openly fash they had to apologize on the show for inviting him on lol
Azov Something if I recall, but I can't find the episode where they apologized about it
Lol i think it was like a "yeah, sorry about that" from Alice, which is a very mininal apology but Alice not doubling down when shit hits the fan is in itself impressive.
War_Takes is just the worst. says he's neither a socialist nor an anarchist, but has a big twitter banner of an American M1 Abrams tank with an antifa flag on it. Beyond parody.
I had to stop watching entirely after they had that adam someone guy on. Around then I noticed Alice and Liam in particular would have a new, anti-communist, historically illiterate take on the USSR to parrot in practically every episode. Really glad I didn't stick around long enough to see their takes on the Ukraine war, I'm sure that only made this tendency of theirs a million times worse.
I used to really love the show, it sucks it turned out this way.
I'm just surprised there's not a black market of WTYP edits that cut out all the stuff people find annoying
WTYP minus Liam
The worst takes aren't even political. Liam's proud reckless and drunk driving is pretty fucking sickening.
Well, there's their problem.
Because Alice and Liam are the kind of people who read every negative comment even ones not mentioning them directly by name on twitter and youtube, carve it out in their memory for all time, and create a mind-palace of spite dedicated solely to that very moment of them reading that comment and then proceed to base their next political shift off of that anger. The third guy is too boring to focus on since he's the only one doing research for the podcast.
The podcast has always been a bizarre fixation on this website early on, since it just kinda felt like a really drawn out online course done by someone on benzos, constantly interrupted by the worst jokes from Red Scare.
material conditions
I enjoy the engineering stuff, and the general consensus that most of these problems are solvable but caused by the incentive structures of global capitalism.
But their foreign policy analysis is often atrocious, and it's a bit hard when they're my introduction to a foreign historical event or figure to know how seriously to take them.
Also, the latest TF episode Alice was really bringing the lib shit in from wtyp
my politics evolved while listening to WTYP backlog (i started when they were at like episode 50) and by the time i caught up i was thoroughly disgusted at how much it declined and how surface level their communist ideals are. particularly alice. holy fuck. at least Liam doesn't pretend to be this all-knowing political wunderkind
Their username is "wtypstan" ?!
This whole time I've been thinking its wytpplstan (white people stan)! I feel like such a fool!
stanaccount04
we're not stanning crackers here
Podcast recommendations, episode discussions, and struggle sessions about which shows need to be cancelled.
Rest In Power, Michael Brooks.
I'm right here, man