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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago

Conservatism is a plague long overdue for a cure.

[-] ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 76 points 1 year ago

Funny how bible thumpers are always focusing on very specific portions of the bible to justify their hatred, but completely ignore the tons of other horrific bullshit that they are also guilty of.

[-] nuzkie@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile complaining that atheists are cherry picking specific portions of the bible

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Nothing makes me roll my eyes harder than amoral Evangelicals telling me that I can't have values and morals if I'm not religious.

Listening to a hate-preacher denounce and proscribe their list of enemies is not self-improvement, but the conservative persecution fetish is the secret sauce of Christian Nationalism. Following a prescriptive list of rules is not morality either, but it's much easier to control people by reducing gradient situations to black-and-white "abortion is murder" style slogans.

[-] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 44 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure straight married people have sex like that too, what is the problem?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What is that sign even trying to convey? Pretty sure stick person is just spotting a squat.

(I mean I get it- they’re being raised as bigots. Apparently by illiterate bigots.)

[-] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

The dude on the right threw his back out trying to flip over that upside-down flag and his buddy is just trying to help him up.

[-] myster0n@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago

And they accidentally forgot the L in flag.

[-] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Kids do struggle with spelling. Good thing we cleared that up.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Brought to you by the same death-cult cranks that claim to care about kids being groomed.

[-] MuuuaadDib@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Been hearing a lot about grooming, that sure looks like it. Psychos shouldn't breed.

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

God does hate fags. Seriously, quit smoking, and stop throwing your butts out your car window. It's bloody disgusting.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Hey that isn't fair! Some of us smoked unfiltered

[-] ccdfa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Or buy biodegradable filters for rollies

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[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Conservatives, the real groomers.

[-] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

does the bible actually say anything about homosexuality/gender anyway?

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Leviticus 20:13: “If a man has intercourse with a man as with a woman, both commit an abomination. They must be put to death.”

That is one quote that I could find. There are probably more.

Edit: But wait, there's more...

Leviticus 18:22: You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination

Romans 1:26-27, Corinthians 6:9-10, Timothy 1:9-10, etc, etc.

That bible is a really hateful book, for sure. It's mind boggling how anyone could be gay and christian. Mental gymnastics to 11, I suppose.

Universal christianity rules apply: Always pick and choose your scriptures.

[-] Teon@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Leviticus 18:22: You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination

This is about having sex as an offering to god, in the temple. Substituting a man in place of a woman is the abomination. Not just having sex in general with a man. Also, Leviticus applies to the Levites and the Levitican clergy.

There is literally NOTHING in the bible that says homosexuality is wrong. But it does fully endorse incest and genocide.

CC: @TheCheddarCheese

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[-] Oszilloraptor@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All I can read out of these citations:

If you fuck a women you are not allowed to fuck a man the same way.

So you have to reserve certain female-only and male-only positions, or you go to hell; or better: Just don't fuck women and you have no other restrictions

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s not a creative reading exercise though.

All the other believers seem to understand that "don’t lie with a man as you do with a woman" isn’t a bunch of loopholes you can navigate by arguing semantics. It is a "don’t be gay" commandment.

The bible does support homophobia. And that’s okay, most large religions are homophobic, I just find it silly to pretend otherwise.

Religion and progressive values do not mix. Which is why I find anyone seeking their acceptance seriously misguided.

[-] Oszilloraptor@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I guess my tone did not transfer well.

I tried to make fun of it, not defend it.

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[-] Veraxus@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. I’ve written about this at length, as it’s one of many things in scripture that requires a significant amount ignorance and/or bad faith to mistranslate as “gay is bad”.

In Leviticus there is a part of a laundry list of household incest laws that reads “A man shall not lay with a male as with a woman.” The phrasing is extremely specific and particular. Why “male” and not just “man”? Why is “as with a woman” added when the command would be perfectly clear without it? What does that addition mean? Why is there no mention of women and women?

This is easy: this command was never intended for us (gentiles living thousands of years later in dramatically cultures), so we can easily miss a massive amount of important context. In the middle east thousands of years ago, if you - a man - wanted a bride or a concubine, you BOUGHT one. You owned her. If you already owned a female slave, you could freely rape her or force her into marriage or concubinage. The prohibition is not a blanket statement on consensual equal gay relationships, it was about not being allowed to rape your male chattel slaves, who had more inherent rights than the female ones.

It’s also important to point out that these laws were handed only to the Israelites who had left Egypt and wandered the desert, ostensibly (according to YHWY, per the same scripture) to guarantee the tribes survival until they could establish a new homeland.

Paul also writes about this once, using a greek colloquial term that translates literally to “male-bedders”, making it parallel to Leviticus in terms of meaning. This appears to be condemnation of pederasty as well, not a condemnation of consensual equal gay relationships.

And yes, the historical circumstances surrounding all that is no heinous to any modern audience… but for different reasons than modern Xtians paint.

P.S. This is not a defense of many awful, gut-churning stories in scripture - merely an explanation of this one specific topic within it’s own social, cultural, and historic context and scope.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah except it commands that both be put to death which wouldn't make sense if it was raping a boy. Especially since the Bible also says not to kill someone raped.

Secondly the exodus didn't happen.

Third Paul condemns it twice and no matter what games you play with the translation it still comes out to don't be gay.

Fourth if it was a bad on child molestation why not just say it? There are words in Hebrew and Greek for child.

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Depends on who is doing the translation.

https://www.advocate.com/religion/2022/12/17/how-bible-error-changed-history-and-turned-gays-pariahs

Some scholars suggest Paul’s condemnations were added later.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

Jesus never said anything about homosexuals in the New Testament.

[-] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not a word.
Although it DOES say that the man that Jesus resurrected from the beseeching of another man was his "life partner" but that is ALSO conveniently Ignored by the right wing.

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[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago

Oh but its the "gay parents" who would "spread gay agenda" on their kids right?

I'd rather a kid get adopted into a family of gay/trans/queer people rather than a family that is religious. In one, they will be actively or passively taught acceptance of other people, in the other, they will be indoctrinated.

[-] Aarrodri@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Talk about grooming, right?

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Yesterday's Behind the Bastards was on How Christianity Got Eaten By Capitalism which fills in some of the colors on why Christians don't go for Beatitudes or camels and needles.

During the Great Depression preachers and minister we left-wing like Marx (typically)

Enter James W. Fifield Jr. ( on Wikipedia ) co-founder of the First Congregational Church of Los Angeles, in substantial debt in 1937 for having built a massive chapel (essentially the first megachurch). He found he could make a killing appealing to rich people and telling them by his interpretation they can shit on the poor all they want. Fifield became The Apostle to Millionaires.

Part two of the BtB rolls out tomorrow.

[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The same people that bring you "books that even mention homosexuality need to be banned to protect the kids" also bring us this.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

What the heck is the girl's shirt? Sign Movies Net?

[-] DannyMac@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

They're just smashing words together at this point.

PURPLE

MONKEY

DISHWASHER

[-] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Good old PMD

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

When I googled it, the first result was a godhates[bundleofsticks] site. So still not sure what it means, but it's related somehow.

[-] fkn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's a video hosting site for the westboro Baptist Church. They own a bunch of domains like this. I believe this one is used for sharing protest videos with each other.

[-] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

Those stick figures have ass for days

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They never skipped leg day

[-] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If not for the parents, I am completely sure that those kids woudln't know or even care about gay couples. Much less that the parents are showing them what they do in their privacy...... but somehow they claim that the drag queens are groomers, oh the irony.

[-] Seraph@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I really do hate to see a Yankees fan.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

The message is utterly confusing. An LMM level of confusing. That seems like it's generated after learning on conservapedia. Do this boy promote marriages, what's with them staying on their recolor of the US's flag? It's so, so damaged.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The boy is holding a sign that has the US flag upside down, a sign of distress, utilizing a slur on the poster to denote that gay marriage is an wrong and therefore causing the US to be in distress. The US flag with pride colours, which are to show acceptance, being stood on is a sign of disrespect.

[-] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Now imagine if one of those kids is gay... I'm so happy that my parents aren't human waste.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Of course god hates fags. Stop revving your loud fucking motorcycle all the time.

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