Let them do it, only pushes more people to alternatives.
this post was submitted on 15 Jun 2023
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I wish, but I've seen a bunch of redditors in the last few days say they didn't even know 3rd party apps existed. Even complaining about the blackouts how all it's doing is hurting the users. Idk if those are bots, paid comments, or what, but I'm sure a lot of people actually think that and it's sooo frustrating.
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It might push more power users away. It won't push away the teeming masses.
Quality will suffer, but they'll keep their traffic.
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There's always the nuclearoption: ban everyone, remove everything on the way out the door. I'm sure reddit admins can reverse it, they probably store everything in the database to sell later, but at least if they try to pull that stunt replacing mods they can be in for a huge pain in the ass.
Mods don't have a duty to do shit, Reddit doesn't pay them anything, doesn't even offer premium at a discount or anything.
Maybe if Reddit was more concerned with not creating a toxic hellspace, they wouldn't need to rely on volunteers to keep their billion dollar corporation running smoothly. Everything about this pisses me off so fucking bad.
Where do they get off saying mods have a DUTY to them, when they LITERALLY are volunteers and reddit gives them nothing.
And maybe if Reddit wasn't killing third party mod tools......like the moderation still isn't gonna be the same no matter how many people you appoint bc you killed the tools that made it possible.
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They're digging their own graves.
Diggit
Digg, get it?
Whatever this turns out to be it will establish a precedent that all social media conglomerates will set the bar at.
Well, there you have it. The "we only care about money" we were waiting for /s. Expect changes to increase profit to affect users even more than this, reddit as we knew it is dead
Imagine being the only mod in a large subreddit, leading an army of untrained recruits. What does that mean for the health of that community? The quality of the subjects and posts isn't going to be very good, particularly if people start birigading or something.
They are getting rid of their best volunteers.
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freenode, twitter, reddit shit like this is always a sign of the end
You mean a heavy handed approach and forcing your will on voluntary participants of your social media platform is bad for business?!?!
If you strike us down we will become more powerful than you can imagine...
Couldnβt agree more with you OP. As someone who often got discouraged from posting on Reddit, Iβve been making an effort to post more here and all the responses have been great. I think it helps that weβre all new here and all on this weird journey together. That being said, Iβm so happy to be here with all of you!
Itβs nice when it doesnβt feel like shoring into a void, right?
I saw another post saying they vowed not to do that. I haven't read the interview, but I wonder how what he said could be interpreted in opposite ways by two different people.
Anyone saying that they wouldn't was lying. Spez has a history of lying.
Here's what they said on June 7:
###Blackout
- We respect your right to protest β thatβs part of democracy.
- This situation is a bit different, with some leading the charge, some users pressuring . Weβre trying to work through all of the unique situations.
- Big picture: We are tolerant, but also a duty to keep Reddit online.
- If people want to do this out of anger, we want to make sure theyβre mad for accurate reasons, not over things that are untrue. Thatβs a loss for everyone.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/143rk5p/-/jnbjtsc/
They have two options: either hire someone and pay them to mod subreddits or open positions to (even more then currently) unreliable powertripping users who will destroy the platform.
I'm fine with both options. I'm not going back, btw.
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Flash forward 8-10 months and the news post reads: βAfter catastrophic exodus Reddit asks to join the #fediverse to add content to platform in hopes of salvaging doomed IPOβ
They don't need to ask to join.
This actually will probably happen down the line. And reddit will only keep its user base if they provide a better ui.
Lmao there's no way reddit figures out how to make a ui. They're doomed if the fediverse keeps growing
Reddit spent years coming up with the shitty new.reddit UI. By the time they improve it again, humans would have landed on Mars
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Honestly, Reddit is likely to keep on trucking with a decent sized user base no matter what. A massive number of people aren't gonna leave, if for nothing but simply not wanting to have to change. I think the most likely thing that happens is that Reddit loses a small chunk of people, their growth heavily slows due to competition and a slow trickle of people leaving (but likely offset by the network effect still favouring them for new people), and they take a revenue ding because advertisers aren't gonna like all this drama.
The Fediverse will probably have a bit more rapid growth as the blackouts still continue in some subs and more people become aware of alternatives to Reddit, but then just grows slowly, with usability being the big barrier to massive adoption.
Mostly power users will leave for something else, which in turn leads to worse content on Reddit.
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There is no way I'm going back to Reddit, the higher ups are greedy and scummy people. Hope the moderator's they change to end up creating a toxic cess pool and bring them down with it.
Reddit will do whatever it takes for them. It is unfortunate but not a giant shock.
Can't say I'm surprised.
They did say that they would do it, after all.
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Didn't they already put a scab in r/adviceanimals?
No. The short story there was an inactive mod was top mod and came back just to make the whole sub private and got backlash from the most active mod about it. Admins ended up removing the inactive mod. There is additional back and forth between the two that got posted but it basically ends as the one actually doing the work gained full control.
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Yes, they installed a new head mod and the new head mod bans anyone who brings it up. The new mod is a moderator of 106 different subreddits.
The funny thing is that many people remaining on reddit have been praising the admins for threatening to remove mods, because they hate the power mods who control all the subs and want to see them removed, but that's exactly who reddit is using to replace the mods they dislike.
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Classic strikebusting. "Oh you won't work for an increasingly bad shake? Guess I'll put these scabs in place instead."
What's stopping the entire mod team from nuking the sub? They can remove all formatting, ban the entire userbase and remove all mod bots.
Rollback on to a backup probably
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit has put rate-limiting in place to prevent mass actions like that.
Normally I wouldn't give their engineers enough credit to figure something like that out, but in this case rate-limiting already exists for posts, comments, chat, etc.
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This makes me think the protests are having more of an impact than they are admitting. Gotta be feeling a hit financially withs ads to make this sort of move this early. Oh well fuck em. Only reason I've visited in the past week was to nuke my 16 year old account.
The answer imo to this is to add people as approved posters and keep the subreddit going.
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