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[-] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 85 points 8 months ago

And yet they'll all still vote Republican.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

A majority of Democratic voters (57%) were ages 50 and older in the 2022 midterms, compared with 51% of Joe Biden’s voters in 2020 and 53% of voters who supported a Democratic House candidate in 2018. Just 14% of Democratic voters were under the age of 30 in 2022 — similar to the 15% of Democratic voters who were in this age group in 2018, but less than their share of Democratic voters in 2020 (17%).

Seven-in-ten Republican voters were 50 and older in the most recent election, compared with 62% of Republican voters in 2020 and 68% in 2018.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

All that proves is that old people vote more than young people. Not that a majority of old people vote Democrat.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

It also proves that not all older people vote Republicans

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[-] Overzeetop@kbin.social 21 points 8 months ago

Those are people who actually voted in the off-year election, not people whos view or registration. https://www.statista.com/statistics/319068/party-identification-in-the-united-states-by-generation/ shows that those in Gen x and above (43 year old an above) Republicans have a ~10% margin over Democrats. Even Pew agrees that Party or Leans-Party favors Republicans in the over 50 group by roughly the same margin https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/06/02/the-changing-composition-of-the-electorate-and-partisan-coalitions/

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

A 10% margin for the republicans indicates a 45%/55% split in voting. In other words, 45% (!) vote Democrat, making this a huge over-generalization.

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

thats because 50 is past the middway point for the Xers. If you look at the 65+ band republicans increased over democrats 20 to 22.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 74 points 8 months ago

Elderly people without family support are going to end up on the streets en masse because of things like this.

[-] jantin@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

Euthanasia will be legalised and normalised sooner than we expwct

[-] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 months ago

Already happening here in Canada!

[-] Crow@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

This is already happening in Canada. Even though self assisted suicide is only for those already facing a terrible and unavoidable near death, we have multiple reports of medical staff recommending it for people who can be treated… which doesn’t magically get them on some death list, it just exposes the medical staff for being an apathetic idiot.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Doesn't get them on some death list YET. That kind of callous inhumanity ferments and grows in apathy.

[-] rab@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

I think there is already a set date where we can use it for mental health reasons, 2024 iirc

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

That's entirely possible

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Family Support

The Boomers can have exactly as much family support as they gave to those who came after.

"Your 17. Get the fuck out". "Now I'm poor and elderly, and it's your problem" ay lmao

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 57 points 8 months ago

"we're not being malicious, we're just pumping prices like everyone else regardless of humans. because profits."

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Everybody's doing it. In capitalism, you try to get the highest price you can for a product."

  • Martin Shkreli

Who, if you don't remember, obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price by 5,455% (from US$13.50 to $750 per pill).

[-] Steve@startrek.website 21 points 8 months ago

Which he did not get in trouble for, it was unrelated.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

He should've been shot on the spot for being defective.

[-] urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 8 months ago

Why y'all so bloodthirsty? These people might not be destitute but they're not billionaires. They planned for a retirement and got it, and now they're getting evicted. They're victims of a cruel system that hurts everyone. Capitalism won't even reward people who "play by the rules", whatever those are supposed to be. Nothing wrong with having empathy. The same boot is stepping on poor people too.

Maybe if people's grandparents with nice retirements are getting evicted somebody will give a shit.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 38 points 8 months ago

Market rate, bitch, pay up or hit the streets. #trump #republican #deregulation #sarcasm

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Landleeches gonna landleech

One of my old landlords did this to me after I reported them to the city for ignoring severe water damage for 2 months. The city sent a health inspector who took one look and said they had to fix it. Landlord showed up with his goon squad to intimidate me, then hit me with a 200% increase.

[-] Woht24@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Would've been a real shame if his house burnt down

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Can't, soaked

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[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

When nobody stands up to these corporations, they can get away with anything.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

On the off chance I ever retire I am never going to a retirement community. I will either bother my remaining family with my care or just be found a month later during a wellness checkup, dead on my own kitchen floor after falling.

I don't trust these "communities". I don't trust any "community" that has a buy in.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

My plan is to go to a South American country where I can get a living visa to live of the pennies I'll get from my Social Security checks in one of their elderly care facilities.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Plan for warm weather.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

How are there not laws protecting these of most vulnerable people.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago

Because capitalists run the government.

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[-] But_Class_War@midwest.social 22 points 8 months ago

Sam Zell was doing the same shit in the '00s (and still is) and even in the same area https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2007-05-27-0705260052-story.html this one ended up with my grandmother losing her retirement plans she financing.

There's always scams and they often target those most vulnerable who can't fight back. You'd think there should be some protections or safety nets but gods of capitalism require blood sacrifices

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[-] Birdie@thelemmy.club 12 points 8 months ago

My 95 year old mom lives in an assisted living facility. She's in a 1 bed, 2 bath apt with a kitchen and living area. Her utilities and meals are paid for. Her rent is over $6k a month, and she's still fairly independent. She's in her right mind--no dementia at all. She can bathe and dress herself, get herself to the bathroom, get herself into and out of bed, can walk without assistance and handles her own meds.

Once she needs assistance with any of the above, her rent goes up by $1k a month.

She just got a complete health workup, and they gave her a life prediction of 10 years. (Her mom and aunts/uncles all lived to be at least 104.)

Luckily, my dad left her with a sizable amount of money and income from SS and some annuities, but if she does live 10 more years, those annuities will be depleted and so will her savings. She will not be able to afford to stay; SS will never cover her rent.

It keeps me up at night. We are already paying for half my MIL's assisted living. How will we ever afford to help both?

It's terrible to find yourself hoping your mom doesn't outlive her money.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

States are different. I have a loved one who lives in a similar situation. A one bedroom apartment with only retired people but the rent is capped at ⅓ monthly income (savings don't count). We can treat our elderly with dignity. We just have to be willing to pay for it and vote for politicians who are willing to enact it. Children, elderly, people with special needs, etc. it frustrates me to no end how we'll just throw them aside so our taxes can be just a little bit lower.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago
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[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago

People like French paid a few hundred thousand dollars upfront to live in the community, then taxes, utilities, and a maintenance fee every month. In recent years, that maintenance fee has risen above $1,300.
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What was coming was $6,150 a month, a more than 300% increase from new property owner, Jaybird Senior Living.
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Rental amounts are "based off fair market rates," Jaybird said in a statement. The new fee includes taxes, gas, and electric

...and rent.

French couldn't stomach the new rent. Neither could other socialites. Many moved.

The article neglects to explain that the management changed the entire business model of this community, and the new way of doing things is to charge people rent instead of requiring people to fork over a giant chunk of cash as a "buy-in."

The townhome units at River Glen of St. Charles recently went from a non-rental to a rental structure. The decision to transition the townhome housing model was guided by the increasing demand for rental structures versus buy-in. As the baby boomer generation ages, there has been a noticeable shift toward communities that cater to specific lifestyle preferences while remaining financially accessible, mirroring an industry-wide transition away from the outdated buy-in model.

By shifting away from the buy-in model, we are following trends set forth by other senior living providers within this market.

The article makes it sound like someone bought the place and jacked up the monthly maintenance fee by $5000 just because "fuck you."

[-] Overzeetop@kbin.social 28 points 8 months ago

The article makes it sound like someone bought the place and jacked up the monthly maintenance fee by $5000 just because “fuck you.”

Well, given that they bought in under the lump-sum + maintenance model and have somehow been "upgraded" to the rental model, that's exactly what happened. It would be like buying a home and then the old owner coming back and saying, "you know what, I could get more money renting this place - you have to pay rent now." These people likely sold their house and used that money to buy into the community - essentially paying for the right to use the building until they die. It's common in CCRC facilities (continuing care retirement community). You essentially pay for the plant and then pay maintenance, and they guarantee that they will have a spot for you in their care facility as you need more assistance (Independent living -> Assisted Living -> Nursing and/or Memory Care - Hospice). It's much like a reverse mortgage in that you "buy" your "home" and get to live in it until you die, at which point the deed is turned over with your heirs getting nothing. Except that in this case you don't get a monthly payment; instead you pay a fee for the facility services which is free of a rent cost. As you move up in care, the fee gets larger to cover the additional services (additional meals, personal assistance, and ultimately nursing care), but it's just for utilities and services - your payment covers the physical buildings. As you move up, people behind you buy in and that money is used for (CEO bonuses) maintenance and updates to the buildings. Many of these are "non-profits" so the extra money technically isn't for profit, but there are lots of corporate mouths to feed in CCRCs and they find ways to distribute the money.

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[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 4 points 8 months ago

The article makes it sound like someone bought the place and jacked up the monthly maintenance fee by $5000 just because "fuck you."

That's exactly what they did though. It's like buying a lifetime app purchase and then a few months later the app goes subscription based and demand you pay more, except this is people's shelter.

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[-] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

From lunch to happy hour, neighbors in the western suburbs love nay excuse to be social, but one group of best friends is breaking up.

If they can't bother to copy edit their lede paragraph, I'm not reading the article.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I've seen so many simple mistakes and misspellings on supposedly serious news websites recently. Are journalists not taught basic writing and proofreading skills anymore?

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

That's the job of the editor. Which news mills like these don't really have.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

As I understand it everyone is being paid peanuts to write these days so to make a living they have to churn out a ton of stuff which means attention to detail goes by the wayside

[-] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

It's not the fault of the writer. It's the fault of the (non existent?) copy editor. When I see a blatant typo in the very first paragraph it makes me doubt the fact checking of the entire article - what else wasn't looked over?

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