I mean no shit? Everyone knows kids will lie about their age to sign up for something. 99% of kids born after the internet got popular have lied about their age. Everyone knows they do it.
The point is they knew about it and didn’t remove them from the platform while saying the opposite.
How did they know about it?
People reported the accounts
Are all reports legitimate?
That's up to Meta to figure out, but probably not. Obviously they ignored many legitimate reports if the problem has escalated this far. It's their responsibility to sift through user reports to find the valid ones, then take action.
It literally says why in the first sentence I copied from the article.
Lol, you're being weirdly hostile to me for no reason.
Are all reports legitimate?
I responded to this before the other one, and I find it ignorant when someone asks a question that’s already answered in the first sentence.
Maybe in fact you're weirdly playing devils advocate for a pedophelia ring,
As someone who lied as a child to get in free (kids under 5 free) and who had a beard in high school so he could buy beer. All before the Internet.
This isn't a "new quirky Internet Age". People have been lying about their age since time immemorial.
I was surprised this was about Instagram and not their VR platform where children are regularly experiencing wildly inappropriate situations and straight up pedophiles.
I don't know about Instagram, but you can get on their VR platform officially at age 13 (when you can also get a Facebook account) and you can easily get a parent to hook it up to their Facebook account instead.
13 is way too young for Facebook. Sure, savvy kids will still find a way to get on, but we are not doing enough to protect kids. And I don't mean in a bullshit, dangerous KOSA way.
Aw, geez! How did all these minors get onto our platform? After we have done literally nothing to prevent it or make any impediment whatsoever? How could we have possibly known unless we used the detailed granular data that we collect on all of our users from sneaker preference to private health data, which we literally use every second of every day?
All we can hope to do is gather up all the information we can on them while not talking about it so we can better understand the situation.
could face hundreds of millions of dollars, or more, in civil penalties
...while making billions in profit and grooming a generation of users to clear trillions in profits over the next few years. Seems like the calculated cost of doing business.
Of course we aren't marketing cigarettes to kids.
I might believe you a little if you weren't dressed as a cartoon camel as you said that.
I was in an antique store with my daughter and we saw a cigarette tin with Joe Camel on it and she didn't believe me when I said it was a way they marketed cigarettes to kids. She didn't even understand why Joe Camel appealed to kids. I guess it's a different age.
So much of an open secret that this isn't even news
Wow. Shocking that a company that’s free to use and thus traffics in user data, selling it to advertisers and who knows who else would want to get data of the most vulnerable, least savvy people they can find.
Oh, let’s not forget that whatever price they’re charging for legitimate advertisers is the same any well-funded paedophiles can pay. Facebook ads aren’t terribly expensive.
Yeah, this is my shocked face.
Of course.
My kids use the Quest headset. I made them their own accounts, underage, because I didn’t want their games and Headset on my account. Their friends are mostly the same with their own FB/meta accounts.
It’s stupid because they force you to have a Facebook account to use the headset. TF did they think was gonna happen. And that’s just headset gamers, not kids that want to use instagram, messenger, or FB itself.
This may have changed recently, but I just bought the Quest 3 and wasn’t forced to create a Facebook account. I did have to create a Meta account, though. As far as I can tell, it’s fairly separate from Facebook and Instagram and I have no intentions of linking it to either of those types of accounts.
That’s good to know. I know they did switch from FB to Meta, but nonetheless I think the age limit is 13(?) to have your own account, and ours were 10 and 8 when I set them up. Still underage.
Click "OK" to certify you are over 13 and you have parental consent before we allow you to use our services
How did they think this would turn out?
Loads more data and inflated legitimate userbase numbers would bring more ad revenue to the platform. And I bet it has. And whatever they get fined for this, will be paltry in comparison to the amount they made from this.
Won't someone think of the kids(data)??
-meta
No one has to work at Faceboot. It isn't like Walmart or something. People getting jobs there are very qualified. I think this needs to get mentioned more. People with a choose are choosing to work for a shit evil company.
Eh, I immediately stop caring when the reporter says "only a fraction." What the fuck is that? 99/100 is "only a fraction."
And? Your interpretation of the phrase isn’t common, and no one cares that you don’t care.
Edit: also, it’s not the reporter’s phrasing, they’re quoting the legal complaint by 33 states, hence the quotation marks.
Here, for your reading pleasure
https://coag.gov/app/uploads/2023/10/23.10.24-Doc.-1-Complaint-People-v.-Meta-23cv05448.pdf
Why the hostility? My point is that 'just a fraction' is a useless metric and we should focus on specifics.
They should be sharing what number of the accounts are banned so we have a clearer picture of the issue.
“Just a fraction” implies it’s a small fraction, usually less than half, and certainly not 99/100. You’re choosing to be dismissive to a ridiculous degree, and implied that just because a reporter said it that it should be dismissed, when their presentation indicates otherwise. If you want to be needlessly ignorant about it, I cannot stop you.
What is a small fraction? Lol, it's crazy watching you insult me while defending people who just want to take advantage of your ignorance.
If they have enough information to determine it's a 'small fraction,' they should just share that fraction so everyone has a better idea of what's going on.
Banning 'less than half' of accounts reported is completely reasonable, considering how many fake reports are generated. But we don't know what 'fraction' of the accounts were banned because the people who filed the report purposefully used vague language.
If that doesn't set off alarm bells in your head, it's because you're easily manipulated. Sorry you're so proud to defend it.
"hundreds of millions of dollars"--sigh, how much? We'll write you a check.
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