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[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

C is okay but why are we not allowed to put the safety on and safely remove all of the ammunition?

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The general risk assessment is that medical personal don't know as much about firearms as Law enforcement - and LEOs don't know much. And you generally have other things to do that are more important than causing a negligent discharge in the ER.

Beside, do you really want to trust the Triage Nurse with a loaded firearm?

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 months ago

Triage is going to be a bit quicker today.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

He's dead Jim.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

At the least, someone might be getting to the head of the line quickly............

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 6 points 4 months ago

I don't trust leaving it behind a desk counter or in a cabinet with bullets in it, personally, I feel like that's the more dangerous option.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

IF you run across a firearm on a patient, (which is really isn't a common thing), it gets placed in a lockbox and then locked into a "safe room". Chances are good there be a cop there in a short order anyway due to the patient having been shot by a gun.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago

It's good that most hospitals have a system in place to handle the situation.

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[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Gun safety courses actually discuss (at length, at least in my state) about how even if you've just got the gun on your desk next to you, but it's loaded, it needs to be pointed in a safe direction. Even doing dry fire exercises (practicing, say, holstering/unholstering with the gun unloaded and the magazine removed entirely), you're supposed to point the gun down at where the floor meets the wall to minimize any chance of anyone being hurt by an accident discharge.

Basically, you're supposed to follow the same rules as if the gun was loaded and you're holding it: don't point it at anything you aren't willing to destroy, and know both what it is pointed at and what lies beyond that.

I personally wouldn't want a doctor on their 23rd hour of work to try to unload a firearm in a crowded and hectic ER, and don't have the answer to how to handle this situation, but I'm not a medical professional so...

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[-] _lilith@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

Medical staff arn't trained with guns and they figure there's less possibility of an accidental discharge the less people are touching it

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Couple reasons.

One: do you know anything about that model of firearm? Does it have a safety? Can it slam-fire if handled improperly?

Two: Is there important information that can be conveyed by the present condition of the firearm. Was it a shooting or an accident. Would clearing the firearm remove important information that can be used to ascertain what happened?

Three: Preserving the firearm can preserve evidence. While that is not necessarily part of the duty of medical staff, there's no reason to risk destroying evidence if the firearm can be safely isolated with minimal disturbance.

Four: Why do it? An isolated, secure gun isn't going to decide to start blasting people on its own. What advantage is there to handling the gun more than is necessary in that situation? Get it out of the way and keep working.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're already assumed to be handling the gun from the onset. Most handguns are pretty standard if they're from this century. The physician is likely wearing gloves and the conviction isn't as important as everybody's immediate safety. The gun isn't in an isolated secure place, this is a physician's office.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Most modern handguns do not have a (manually operated) safety.

"A" is the answer closest to "remove all of the ammunition".

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