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Don’t talk too loudly about Democrats increasing funding for cops, it helps Trump!
Don’t talk too loudly about Biden bankrolling a genocide, it helps Trump!
Don’t talk too loudly about the man y’all say will protect us from Trump being too incapacitated to protect us from Trump, it helps Trump!
It is crazy to try to paint this as drama when you bring up any issues before things get bad, folks will just shout you down anyway. I've seen many liberals say they would vote for Biden's corpse, so what difference does it make if it is someone else with (D) next to their name? You might as well go down swinging than on your knees.
Biden is just another arrogant, out of touch, privileged elite with no understanding of what the majority of Americans experience day to day.
His hubris was on full display in Friday's interview, the stakes are clearly not the same for him. He has enough wealth and power to weather this fascist storm, unfortunately most of us do not.
If Trump gets elected, I'm pretty sure Biden's going to get a kangaroo court trial on some garbage charge and be sent to prison.
Worst case scenario Biden has the resources/connections to evacuate to somewhere safe and luxurious. The rest of us are stuck dealing with christofascist militias. The wealthy will continue living in opulence.
Why don’t you just evacuate somewhere safe too, then?
"have you tried not being poor?"
Exactly.
It’s not hard.
I honestly don’t think Trump gives a shit about Biden. The Obamas on the other hand…
Bro, a 25 year old who happened to get a job in tech 5 years ago is a millionaire. Baseline retirement savings is a couple million. Pretty much any upper-middle-class professional career (doctor, lawyer, finance) is going to net you a few million within several years.
It’s not the thing you think it is. The truly wealthy are pulling in 1,000x to 100,000x that number.
He really isn’t wealthy, did grow up in a working-class environment, and certainly is not a trust-fund baby, billionaire, or media celebrity. Kind of hilarious assertion considering the competition.
What candidate would you like to see replace Biden?
(weird how 15-20 upvotes is the baseline for these kind of comments.)
I don't think you understand how money works. You literally just described a trust fund baby because nobody is making a couple million dollars just because they got an advanced degree. Doctors that make the big bucks have to go through 12 years of schooling. And then they're paying that back for a decade before they get to enjoy their income. So yeah at the age of 40, assuming they were successful in their residency, assuming they got a good hospital job, then they get to spend another 5-10 years saving for retirement.
You can't just look at the high end of a career and assume you walk into that kind of money. That's not how it works unless you have the high level connections a trust fund baby would have.
That's because most Americans like both Israel and cops. The ones who don't lack the numbers to be worth courting.
And, yes, it does suck to be stuck in a country with people like that, especially when they refuse to listen to reason and hold all the cards.
Welcome to America.
The Democratic Party cannot fail us.
It is only us who can fail the Democratic Party.
/s?
Isn't it telling that you have to ask?
Asking for the benefit of your comment, friend
So...
Trolling?
Not at all.
The status quo is unacceptable, and if a bit of rhetoric can jolt someone out of their slumber, it is appropriate and right.
Removed for trolling and admitting trolling.
Because we're all relying on historical context. No previous-loser has ever won against the person who beat them in the history of presidential elections.
Democrats funding for cops actually helps democrats reach centrists and independent voters.
Nobody actually gives a shit about Israel and Palestine. People bringing this up are feigning concern.
Nobody has ever said Biden will 'protect us from Trump'. Not voting for Trump is what protects us from Trump. Telling people to stick it to the man and vote for someone else is harmful, because it splits the vote.
What the fuck are you going on about? Just because you're a psychopath who doesn't give a shit about other people doesn't mean we all are.
I cannot claim to know OP's mind, but IMHO, I think those that are performatively wringing their hands and clutching their pearls over the situation in Israel right now are either a bit deluded or just out to delude others, IF they are acting like having donnie instead of Biden would make that situation in any way better. And if they are telling people to vote third party or stay home to lodge a stupid protest against The Man, they are only helping donnie. Which again, will result in things going from very, very bad to far far worse.
Nobody is making that argument. You were the person the op was taking about. Nobody's going to vote trump over Palestine.
Sorry, I guess I was talking about kitnaht not the OP. And people actually are making this kind of argument, including around here. These are the same types that argue donnie is for keeping us out of "WWIII" (while Hillary obviously wanted one, lol) and ignore all his statements about wanting to level Gaza, etc.
Now, how many are trolls/bots, it's hard to say...
Historical context really doesn't mean anything here. Trump isn't the average republican guy. He has taken over the whole party with his ideology alone. Tons of people care about genocide. Not to mention people directly affected by it. Biden's whole pitch was he can get stuff done and be a one-term President. None of that has happened. This moment requires boldness and conviction. Biden is not the man for that at all.
Betting all your chips on a man who is hanging by a thread is a risky gamble to protect whatever is left of this country.
Biden's current approval rating is 34%....
What's the last president with numbers that low he got a second term?
Like, I don't think people understand how historically unpopular Biden is. 34% is fucking insane for being the president that followed trump, you can't get a better set up than being compared to that shitheel.
Liberals are so self-assured that they occupy the majority position that they simply cannot fathom that number is accurate.
I honestly do not think there is any way to get through to those people. Everyone who disagrees is either not a real american democrat or have been duped by the fake media.
They will drive us clear over the edge of the cliff and blame us for giving them the wrong directions.
It's just insane to me.
Like, there's that thread where Biden's talking about not bowing to "elites and millionaires" calling for him to drop...
And people are acting like that's really what's happening.
The elite and billionaires are the only ones not calling for him to drop, he's trying to frame it as him fighting for what voters want, but voters don't want Joe as the candidate.
On Friday when they asked him about the polls, he just pulled a trump and said they weren't fucking real.
Before trump in 2016, that answer would never have fucking flown.
When I was campaigning for Bernie, I ran into two groups of people who you just COULD NOT have a reasonable conversation with... Magas and Clinton liberals... They just will not/cannot see reality
Yeah, I'm getting some real Hillary 2016 energy on this one. Instead of it being "her turn", this time around, it's about Biden's "legacy". And I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I don't give a fuck about either of those things, I'm very much in the majority. Biden's legacy can get stuffed just as much as any notion that it was Hillary's birthright to be the first female American President...
TBF, the same "deep state" that the right clutches their pearls over are the same ones that pulled the Butter Emails garbage...but still. Beating donnie should be a slam dunk. He's basically the Washington Generals here, but somehow, the Democrats seem to do worse.
Nobody has ever done anything until they did. You're not really saying much there.
While we're at it though, no previous president has ever won reelection with an approval rating below 48% either. Biden's hasn't polled that high in over a year and a half.