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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 241 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

We are the bridge generation.

We know and saw a world without the internet and we experienced it when it first came to be.

We saw the first mass produced computers and computer devices which broke often, didn't work the way we wanted them to, they weren't fast and they didn't have much memory in any way. We were the first generation to see all this. Our parents were too old and busy to figure it out but we were young enough to be curious about it all. We also kept wanting to have the newest fastest hardware and software so we had no choice but to either buy, beg or steal these things to get them. We learned to swap parts, add parts, remove parts, install an OS, uninstall the OS, run backups, store data and learn it all on our own because there was no easy internet social media community to help you. Software was constantly changing and we had to keep up by either buying expensive titles or we learned about Linux and open source software or we became digital pirates or both.

Now the digital landscape has changed. Younger generations prefer handheld devices so to them everything is solid state ... they never can imagine changing the RAM, HDD, SSD, CPU, GPU or the PSU or even bothering to learn what those things are. Because everything is built in and no one (or very few) people bother with fixing or tinkering with anything. There are fewer people who learn about software and about how or where to find it, install it, configure it and run it. To new generations who only know the digital world through locked devices, there was less incentive to learn or even have access to know how these things worked.

We are the bridge generation. We got to see the world without the internet and the world with one. No one before us got to see what we saw, no one after us will experience what we went through. Our civilization dramatically changed during our lifetime and we got a front row seat.

[-] jawa21 3 points 2 hours ago

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Learning to edit config.sys to get some share ware game working without help was a rite of passage for many.

[-] Throw_away_migrator@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago

The comp for an older generation is cars. Cars saw similar growth and adoption in the 50s-80s. And they had similar growing pains, reliability and maintenance issues were common place. So being able to perform maintenance and having an understanding of how they work was far more wide spread than just hobbyist and professionals.

As cars advanced the need to perform field maintenance and ad hoc repairs became less required so future generations (on average) became less knowledgeable and skilled at various car repair (and modification) activities, because cars just work now so there's really no need to worry about learning how to fix minor issues, because they're just not a common problem.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Case in point: I drive an EV and I don't think there's a damn thing I personally can do to fix it other than maybe change a tire. It doesn't even have a spare and I wouldn't even know how anyway.

My god, I'm the iPad kid of cars.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

It's a deliberate choice by companies because they sell you the thing, and the service to fix the thing.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You also can’t wrench on a car anymore in the way you used to. It’s all computerized and you need special software to access and configure parts.

I can’t replace my airbags without special pairing software that cost tens of thousands of dollars. It’s unlikely that I’ll learn by performing the repair because the tools are no longer available.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 54 points 6 hours ago

We got to live in the most interesting times in history, so far. Most of us are depressed for it.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 43 points 7 hours ago

The PSU is the only thing you can change easily. I love that everything is USB-C and that I can plug in everything, everywhere.

But I'm kind of happy everyone uses handhelds, I got really tired fixing everything for my entire family and friends.

"My printer seems to be defectiv..."

Entschuldige, ich kann kein Englisch. Muss weg, keine Zeit. Bye!

[-] Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 7 hours ago

I work in Tech and this is my mantra: printers are Of the Devil.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

I once turned down a job solely because they asked too many questions about printers during the interview.

I won’t be the printer guy! That path leads to depression.

Oh and cancer. Toner gives you cancer.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

My buddy worked tech support for a fairly large facility. They got tired of getting calls for a busted printer, only to walk all the way across the facility to discover it was out of paper. It got to the point that if someone called about a printer, they would wait an hour before responding. If nobody else called within that hour, they assumed the issue was resolved on its own.

[-] treesapx@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

In healthcare IT there's often a person who specializes in just printers. My friend makes a lot of money doing that.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 6 hours ago

I'm sure they got to us because they were too evil for hell and the devil itself got tired of them.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The part that royally pisses me off is that a roommate used to work for Lexmark. One day he brings home an "all in one" printer, fax, scanner, and something else I am forgetting. Best scanner I have ever seen. No light bar. The thing worked by taking four pictures and digitally meshing them together. When you scanned a document, there was a series of 4 rapid flashes. One Magenta, one Cyan, one Yellow, one White.

The damn thing was absolutely perfect at digitizing anything you put onto the unit's scanning glass, but it did have a design issue where the scanning glass wasn't parallel to the floor, and was instead tilted like a desktop picture frame.

According to my roommate, that particular design flaw is why they decided to kill the printer, never releasing it to the public. AFAIK they never even tried that scanning tech in any other printer.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

It’s like all the old geezers who cum into carbeurators but like, shouldn’t they be happy that fuel-injection is a million times better and more reliable? I work on my own car and I can handle that shit in my driveway easy but these people seem to want more work to do. Yes, Fred, carbs make more sense for dirtbikes but oh my god otherwise shut up.

As for printers yea what the fuck. They all work differently even within the same company when all they need to do is take the exact same control module, maybe two versions of it, and slap it onto different bodies. But, instead, it’s just a giant fucking mess.

[-] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago

My 13 y o niece had no idea how to uninstall a program on a PC. I was a little stunned.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

I'm reasonably certain that all four of my housemates, (58 y/o +) don't have any idea how to close a program either on their laptops, or their phones. Thankfully I'm the only desktop guardian.

[-] Twitches@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago

Very eloquently put.

[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago

Great write up

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

I'm not sure what the generation breakdown is. I'm in my 50's and fix PCs. My brother in law is in his 70's and fixes PCs. One of his 3 daughters (40) fixes her own PC.

It seems like it's everyone between 40-80.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago

GenX is what the comment is about. Millennials were born to home computers but the early ones had to contend with much the same mess we did.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Millennials were born to home computers

The majority of Millennials probably first got a PC in the home in their tween/teen years.

[-] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, early millennial and OPs comment fits to a “T” for me, though I think some of my experiences had a bit more socialization in context, like ICQ, Aol chat, and MSN messenger. The rise of cell phones, text messages, T9, etc. My kids are amazed when I pull out the VHS tapes at my parents, or my dad pulls out some cassettes or vinyls (though those have been more popular of late).

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago

I think your family are tinkerers, and they are a rare breed. A group of people who just love taking things apart, bringing them back together and doing all sorts of other things with them. My family is a bit like that but we never had the technical expertise. I'm indigenous from northern Ontario and a lot of my cousins and relations have a grade school education but there is a whole lot of excellent small engine mechanics. I have one cousin who barely spoke any English but her regularly swapped while engines from trucks to keep old vehicles running.

I tinker myself which is why I learned about computers and computer technology on my own but never to a really high level.

So every generation has their outliers and your family were probably the same group of people that made things or fixed things in earlier generations.

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