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It's delusional, but they don't think they were enemies. There are unresolvable contradictions in right wing ideology that force them into this conclusion.
Right wingers are unable to properly confront the failures and contradictions of capitalism, nor can they abide the necessary restraints on individual businesses that the liberal state imposes in order to stabilize the capitalist system. They attribute all of this to a shadowy conspiracy of elites with purely evil motives, frequently casting this conspiracy as communist. This tendency goes at least as far back as the John Birch Society, who took it as an article of faith that Eisenhower was a communist. Essentially, anti-communism collapses into self-negation through its failures to resolve the contradictions of capitalism.
There are Marxists who are much smarter than me and can probably explain this in more depth than I can, but that's the basic version.
I think it might be dumber than that. I think they might be referring to our backing of dictatorships as backing communism because they think communism is when dictator. If you asked them to specify they would probably say Saudi Arabia and shit.
I think that may be more the liberal mindset. Conservatives don't mind dictators a la Pinochet as long as they're right wing and US aligned.
I don't think Conservatives would dare use the word "dictator" to describe the likes of Pinochet. After all, everybody knows that Pinochet brought the freedoms of the free market (best system in the world, best and most freest ever) to the oppressed Chilean people who were suffering under ... checks notes ... mild social democracy.
I could be wrong though, I'm sure there are some really violet chuds that would say he was a dictator and that was a good thing because leftist bad
Joe Biden was a communist.
Plenty of them do believe this
American conservatives are some of the dumbest motherfuckers you'll ever meet
There’s a post going around Twitter rn where some American conservative was like “we were this close to communism” like “wow we dodged a bullet” lmao
Exactly. They'll say that the EU is communist because of Macron and that's why we need to put tariffs on them.
A relative told me this recently
I was also repeatedly informed of this fact by a family member.
There's this yank I talk politics with sometimes and he is terminally conspiracy brained. For him, everything comes down to that "shadowy conspiracy of elites with purely evil motives" that you describe. He talks about the WEF, globalism, the Bilderburgs, all the greatest hits of right wing brain rot.
He's mentioned several times in the past that he believes that the USA was the one who imposed the "evil Communist dictatorships" abroad like North Korea. I could not figure out for the life of me how on Earth he ever reached this blatantly ahistorical conclusion.
You might be onto something here.
I suppose that could be true in the sense that the US imposed themselves on the peninsula to prevent it being unified under a communist dotp, instead relegating them to the just north half of the peninsula while the burger regime turns the south half into its puppet. Even then, my last sentence was a big stretch.
I recently read a few pages into Proudhon’s Philosophy of Poverty. While most of it junk, it did contain one curious thing: that society moves according to laws independent of any individual person, and religion is used to explain this apparent external action upon society.
well the libarlas are all leftist for them so they do not and can not understand that their Oligarchy uses US Aid as a weapon aganst "leftist Regimes " , because for them the "deep State" ARE Leftist itself a "Autoritärian leftist Regime" , secretly plotting with china to take their FREEDOM. They also can not comprehent things that happen outside of their Control ,Meaning US control --> that would make them feel bad. So they conclude that that all this china rise etc. was actually just a conspiracy by CNN and other "Leftist" against them...
something like that ?
Me too