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Have you ever heard about hydra? The whole "cut one head and two will grow" shtick? I hate Elon and I want him to die as soon as possible but he's nothing but an avatar.
Do not judge the kid before they are responsible for their actions.
Most of Elons children turn against him.
Oh I'm absolutely not judging his kid at all. He's in a terrible situation having musk as a father.
Unfortunately shooting his dad is a trolley dilemma type scenario
You took it there.
I speak only for myself, and I happen to believe being a sociopathic robber baron isn't genetic.
From latestage capitalism, whete you successfully got me banned, for not being a tankie I guess:
Better to look forward, as the Scandinavians, than dwell in old ideas that doesn't work and/or become murderous dictatorships. What a success, only 20 million starved to death because of Stalin & co.
I got you banned? Take some responsibility for yourself, you were being insufferable in that thread. Obviously people are going to be speaking sympathetically about socialism in latestagecapitalism, you chose to antagonize everyone by making reductive arguments and moral grandstanding over historical events you know little about, like you're doing now.
I'm an anarchist btw, I'm not the biggest fan of the USSR or the PRC either, but you are simply refusing to engage with the topic in good faith.
Lol I just pointed out that socialism never works, I am actually very left leaning and I'm looking for an alternative to communism/soc/anarchism that can actually work. But those people just stay on to the old "it's the fault of the USA!!" rant. To each their own, but trying the same thing again and again believing the outcome will change this time is IMO utter madness.
There was IMO also not much of a topic other than socialism, except if you just have to dunk on capitalism which is just stupid, again IMO, capitalism brings suffering, but it also brings good things. I know that's not what people want to hear.
Sorry if I came off as an asshole, but I'm so tired of the dreamers, what are you going to do when the capitalists come to your cozy village, how will you deal with egomaniacs and power hunger in your anarchy group, etc. are the questions to discuss, IMO, not if stalin did or did not kill more or less people (he was a brutal dictator, we don't want that).
Maybe I'm the dreamer.
Sorry for polluting your thread!
This is the main reason people are on your case. It's an extremely reductive statement that's been repeated ad infinitum by Procapitalist propagandists in defense of the status quo. Socialism is an incredibly broad and diverse philosophical and political tradition that has led to an enormous amount of positive change, even if a "perfect" socialist state has not yet been established.
That's great! You can start by actually discussing communism/socialism/anarchism with other leftists in a nuanced manner, without repeating the same old tired tropes designed to keep us from even thinking about alternatives to capitalism. Front-loading every conversation with the presumption that every alternative to capitalism that has ever been conceived of simply "doesn't work" and "could never work" is, again, reductive.
It might surprise you to hear that anarchists do discuss how to deal with egomaniacs and power hunger quite often, but you wouldn't know that because you are the one coming in and obnoxiously debating over how many people Stalin has killed. I must ask you again to please take responsibility for yourself instead of blaming others for the lack of productive discourse.
Sorry can't respond to your answer, too deep for Connect it seems.
I'll check out your recommendation, and just to show you: SENS is the scientific communitys work on staving of aging, and thus death ;-)
Please direct me to any discussion where anarchists discuss how to deal with powerhungry people and(or) egonaniacs, or a book or a blog post.
And about my statement being reductive, yes it is, and no it is not because I don't know my history it's because of it. It's easy to discuss how to manage a socialist country if you just conveniently forget why it never materialises. Or so I think, and that is for me the biggest hurdle and thus my biggest concern to how to implement socialism, or anarchism. I actually grew up in the only real soc/com country ever (some people argue at least), sweden back in the day, and it had a whole lot of problems too, but it stopped being soc all by itself.
So no I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just expressing my concerns.
I find this video by Andrewism to be a good introduction to how anarchy can be organized.
This article focuses more on defending an anarchist society from an external military threat, but has relevant discussion of how to defend the social structures more specifically as well.
The question of how to deal with power hungry people is fundamentally the same question as how do you prevent the establishment of hierarchy in the first place. That is essentially the foundational question of anarchist political theory, so any writing on anarchism is relevant to this.
Okay so nice video, but again I failed to find any info about how to handle egomaniacs & power hungry people.
But it made me think, I might have a better way to make you see what I mean. How would you integrate someone like me? Force me? Ban me (like that communist sub)? "Make me" understand?
That's IMO the biggest problem with those types of ah ways to live.
So thanks again but still absolutely not convinced it's viable. I will continue looking, because capitalism isn't the future we want and democracy can be better.
You are asking me to give you a simple answer to a question that does not have one. As I said before, that problem is foundational to anarchist theory, and the entirety of anarchist discourse is dedicated to solving it. Directing you to writings by anarchists discussing how to organize and defend an anarchic form of society is the best I can do. David Graeber is a prominent anarchist writer and anthropologist that I highly recommend checking out.
You may as well be asking me to solve death. Death is a fact, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do everything possible to fend it off for as long as possible.
Sometimes the Luigis are the children we meet along the way.
Because they distanced themselves from Elon. If this kid grows up with Elon he's doomed to be like him.
Don't go for the head, too small. Probably useless also. All his vitals are just sitting there unprotected even by his "meatshield"
Fair point! Also, shooting musk in the body would be less likely to kill the kid, and only traumatize him.
In fact, shooting him in the head would center-mass the kid. Not a good way to go.
Chest.
Vivian seems pretty cool. You shouldn't assume they're going to follow after their dad. Especially if they realize he used them as a meat shield
I'm making no assumptions about the kid, and I would much rather have the kid not be harmed.
All I mean is that I would much rather that their dad no longer be alive.
...do you people even hear yourselves?
I completely understand hating Elon, but wanting to shoot him and being ok with his innocent child being collateral is fucking insane.
The fact you felt ok commenting it and at least 35 other people upvoted that is crazy to me.
For real. That’s beyond anything politics and just straight up evil…
I don't care who it pisses off, but I will never hold children accountable for the actions of their parents. If they grow up and continue their parents shitty actions that's a different conversation, but preemptively assuming someone will turn out a certain way is disgusting.
Does any of the oligarchy care about who they hurt? Do most people care who they hurt. We have rampant capitalism and people get hurt over it but nobody cares.
We are talking about direct intentional murder of an innocent child vs layers of societal failures due to an economic structure of government.
Not exactly 1 to 1.
Only here on Lemmy, people advocating for taking a sniper shot and potentially murdering an infant.
This from the party of love and empathy, advocating for the rights of the working man, wondering why people think they are unhinged when outside their echo chambers
Details at six
This is the party of pure, unadulterated class hate and trying to shoot Elon through reinforced glass that could sustain .50 in rounds is stupid. It's way better to take him out in the open when he gets out of his jet.
And when thousands die (including children, infants, and babies all) because Mump (Musk/Trump) cut what little social help they have, it's just fine and dandy.
Unfortunately, sometimes this type of thing just needs to be done for the greater good. Two lives for the price of thousands who can barely afford to live as is.
Doubling down and saying "eh his kid might just have to die for the greater good" is fucking wild.
Again, there are thousands of other kids who will die thanks to Musk and Trump. It sounds wild to you, and it is definitely not something I would ever prefer, but that is where we are at right now, realistically.
No. It's where you are at right now.
The rest of the normal people wouldn't even entertain the idea of killing an innocent child just to take out one guy they didn't like.
You people all desperately need help.
Your moral compasses don't even have cardinal directions anymore.
If you say so, friend. I'll drop the conversation here.
Lol I doubt anyone here would claim the democrats are what you say.
I love online that is not an infant so people even know what words mean. Imhe would be a toddler.
Ohhhh. So that's why he's on the shoulders. Blocking that headshot through the window.
Those windows can take sustained .50cal fire. That kid would only count as concealment against anything deployed effectively against those windows.
Thanks, I was wondering what they were talking about 😂
Unintentional, facelifted, duckface.