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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Trying to remove economic coercion under capitalism is like trying to remove the role of the Church from medieval Europe. It can't function without it. It's pure idealistic slop. Enough ideology to give Zizek an overdose.

This was one of their smartest guys, for the record.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] shath@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i'mma force a poop out myy but

this is what national SOCIALISM looks like

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

The whole thing is pretty consistent if you're on board with "Working 80 hour weeks at the puppy kicking factory vs. starve to death" is a free choice. Friedman here isn't wrong about the quote, he's much more wrong on a much deeper level

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a system that concentrates wealth and it happens to have a globe spanning empire with a military that is multiple times as large as the next guy. They use it to keep bananas cheap. I only disagree with you to assert that it's not just the church but the monarchy themselves.

The globe spanning empire whose function is concentrating wealth sustains itself until the finite resources turn into Earth choking CO2 seems as if it's not random noise of capitalism but it's ultimate form.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think we disagree at all. The church in medieval times served an intricate and omnipresent role in society and politics. You could not extract it from the feudal system or find the exact place where the church ended and the nobility began, was the angle I was going for, but poorly articulated.