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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trying to remove economic coercion under capitalism is like trying to remove the role of the Church from medieval Europe. It can't function without it. It's pure idealistic slop. Enough ideology to give Zizek an overdose.

This was one of their smartest guys, for the record.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] shath@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i'mma force a poop out myy but

this is what national SOCIALISM looks like

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

The whole thing is pretty consistent if you're on board with "Working 80 hour weeks at the puppy kicking factory vs. starve to death" is a free choice. Friedman here isn't wrong about the quote, he's much more wrong on a much deeper level

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a system that concentrates wealth and it happens to have a globe spanning empire with a military that is multiple times as large as the next guy. They use it to keep bananas cheap. I only disagree with you to assert that it's not just the church but the monarchy themselves.

The globe spanning empire whose function is concentrating wealth sustains itself until the finite resources turn into Earth choking CO2 seems as if it's not random noise of capitalism but it's ultimate form.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

I don't think we disagree at all. The church in medieval times served an intricate and omnipresent role in society and politics. You could not extract it from the feudal system or find the exact place where the church ended and the nobility began, was the angle I was going for, but poorly articulated.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women, and there are families

-Margaret Thatcher

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

Damn, she really did say that. What a legend.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

did not know Danny Devito was an economygrapher.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

which one was the freak that argued for selling babies?

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

rothbard I think, but all ancaps are libertarian-approaching

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

My favorite thing about ancaps is their thinkers explicitly reject empiricism. Even the liberals clinging to Adam Smith wouldn't admit to just making shit up based on vibes.

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago