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Fuck the Capitalist commodification of love.
Drop the dating apps & muster up the patience go do things & meet people irl instead.
I don't think I've ever met someone organically and then dated them
They say workplace relationships don't work and they're probably right, but the problem is that's the only place you ever meet anyone these days.
When you befriend the people at your workplace, you will also meet their friends.
That's wishful thinking. I might be befriendable, but I'm not fit to introduce to people.
Have you tried shitpost dating?
https://lemmy.world/post/27886845
When everyone in your workplace is a transplant, their friends are just other coworkers
Which is not a bad start to make more friends.
I asked out my coworker about a week ago.
I can't recommend against it enough.
Before you started working you meet people at school, well, take classes and meet people you don't work with!
meeting women is really easy if you're friends with women. they always have single friends who they'd be happy to introduce you to. obviously don't be friends with women just for this purpose though
That requires having time to be friends with and meet people
If you don't have time for friends you definitely don't have time for dating.
It feels Machiavellian to do something like befriending people or playing sports that I would not otherwise do
Agreed, but seems like then you should do it for yourself (physical and mental health, stimulation from learning skills, broadening horizons) and if you make friends in the process that's cool.
Yeah I think that's common, but it's literally how we've been doing it since, well, forever.
Big Tech wants you to think it's scAAaRRrry BooOoOOo!
(I mean, tbf, sometimes it is. Also humiliating lol).
Honestly, I'm good. I never really used apps but I have had a lot of girlfriends through mutual friends and such. I'm just over it. I'm tired of romance and especially tired of sexuality. I just want to program computers.
Careful or you'll get exactly what you're asking for.
That's the goal, man. I would be happy to never have sex again. I always felt like it was more for her benefit than mine anyway.
Women do not want to be approached in public.
We're better off regulating dating apps and predatory buisness practices, because people prefer to use apps.
Women as a whole want different things, and often don't know what they want from moment to moment. In my experience, most women prefer to be approached in public under some circumstances, and what those circumstances are differs wildly from woman to woman.
women ought to have a signal that they are open to being approached, like a PvP flag or something
The thing is, there are signals - open body language, frequent glances around the room, etc.
The tougher bit for some folks is also seeing, and respecting, when they clearly want you to go away, AND not taking it personally. They may want someone to approach them, but for whatever reason not you. That's perfectly OK, and says nothing about your general worth, just their interest at the moment.
Go, initiate contact, and if you're getting one word replies, crossed arms/body facing away from you, refusal to meet eyes, inauthentic laughs, etc., exit cheerfully, move on with your day and let her move on with hers.
The biggest problem I've had women tell me about is not being approached, but guys not taking the hint if it's not clicking and leaving them be. Be the guy who reads the situation, takes the hint if present and doesn't get all fucked up about it, and you'll probably end up talking to someone who does want to talk to you later.
Should note this is often just human stuff, and holds for a lot of guys as well with the caveat that they're often, though not always, more direct.
I remember in college being mildly devastated when a friend I had a thing for was talking about how she just wanted to meet someone that (superficially) seemed a lot like me, but then was not into me.
Of course, in retrospect I realized I'd done that to couple women without realizing what was happening.
Yeah, I'm autistic so reading behavioral cues more or less doesn't work for me. It's not impossible but my error rate is significantly higher than most people's. I just focus on being friendly and honest. I always take an opportunity to be introduced to someone. I always take an opportunity to become closer to someone if they want that. I also focus on being pretty (I only attract bisexual women, lol)
In my perception, approaching women like the days of old (pre social media) is dead as a concept. There are two ways forward: women become more explicit about when they want to be approached, or they themselves do the approaching. It seems to me that the latter is the path they've chosen. Every woman I've ever dated has come to me and made it clear they want me in that way. Is this a good solution? Probably not. More people are single than ever but that is caused by a lot of factors, not just this social change.
Women are human individuals and not a single-minded monolith.
What women universally don't want is to feel threatened, creeped out or objectified. It is perfectly possible to talk to someone without doing any of these. Though it gets a lot easier when you view them as humans.
I said elsewhere that writing a good profile is a skill many people have neither the aptitude nor training for, and thus fuck it all up.
Talking to strangers in public? Also a skill, and I'd say a much more difficult one with much higher stakes.
I've known charismatic sensitive people that can read a scene and chat up people. That's an outlier. Most people are bad at all of that.
also, remember the "man or bear? Definitely the bear" thing from a while ago? Still a thing.
Fuck capitalism for sure, but the apps can still work. I know happily married couples who met on tinder. Not saying that it's everyone's experience, but still. The more avenues people are open to the better sometimes.
We're a happily married couple who met through OkCupid, back when that was decent!
Honestly, OKC back in its heyday was the place to be. So many of my friends made legitimate, genuine connections there. Devastating that they ended up being sold to match. OKC had plenty of people, but it was apparently the goto for all the nerds. A lot of them use meetup now, but there's really nothing like what it was for nerd/nerd dating.
Remember how you could search for interests? I'm pretty sure you could just like type in "Final Fantasy" or "Speed Chess" and find people who liked it enough to put it on their profile.
Now it's just a shadow of what it used to be. A crappy tinder knockoff with vestigial profiles.
Second that. I met my partner on OKC 8 years ago, and before I met them I also made lots of connections and had several dates with other people I met via OKC, some of whom I'm still friends with. The site certainly wasn't perfect, all dating sites are straight up self-esteem murderers if you're a heterosexual man, but as far as dating sites go, it was the best I've used because it actually tried to match you with people who shared values with you.
At the same time I was also on tinder, and it was a barren wasteland of boring normies and felt more like a meat market than anything. I never had a meaningful match on there.
The problem is when it works it's despite the algorithm not because of it. It's probably easier for women, as there are more men on dating sites and there are women on dating sites.