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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

One side are literal fascists and the other is not. Nothing else matters compared to that.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why did the Biden regime give $18B to Israel to help murder Palestinian civilians?

Can you answer for any of Obama's equally vicious war crimes?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

One side are literal fascists and the other is the former's enables.

FTFY

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

both sides are literally fascist. one is just covert about it.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You really should look up the definition of fascist, because you are using it wrong.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Which parts of the definition don't they meet?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let's go with Umberto Eco's definition since it is well known and it is numbered for easy reference.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism#Overview

The only part that might apply to Democrats is #6.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 13, and 14 all apply to the Democrats

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Could just go with the simple one: fascism is capitalism in decay.

Then the republicans are fascists and the democrats are not fascists, because they are in denial about their empire decaying.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From Wikipedia:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to Marxism, democracy, anarchism, pluralism, free markets, egalitarianism, communism, liberalism, and socialism, fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.

Democrats are right-wing, but not far-right. Democrats are not authoritarian or ultranationalist, Democrats are not characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, or belief in a natural social hierarchy. Democrats are not opposed to democracy, egalitarianism, or liberalism.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats are most definitely authoritarian and Ultranationalist. They are also hugely militarist and autocratic, as well as holding a strong belief in hierarchy. They're also opposed to democracy and egalitarianism.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Authoritarianism is a political system characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in democracy, separation of powers, civil liberties, and the rule of law."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

Democrats do not reject political plurality.

Democrats do not reduce democracy (rather they increase it by defending voting rights).

Democrats protect the separation of powers, civil liberties, and the rule of law.

Democrats do not fit the definition of nationalism, let alone ultranationalism.

They do not hold strong beliefs in hierarchy, oppose democracy, or oppose egalitarianism. That's just an outright lie.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Authoritarianism is when the government does stuff. The opposite would be libertarianism where corporations rule and company towns come back and villages get taken over by bears

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Democrats are not authoritarian or ultranationalist, Democrats are not characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, or belief in a natural social hierarchy

guys, do i tell him?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yea so this is why I support third parties. Dems need to be better than "not fascist"

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

The system as it stands does not support third parties and Democrats are the only hope we have of changing that system without massive bloodshed and suffering.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Genocide apologist

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fascism is capitalism in decay and imperialists are scared of their empire decaying

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

I always find it amusing yet chilling when libs try to distinguish themselves from fascism by labeling it on pretty much everyone other than their own (e.g. AfD, Republicans, center-right, """""far-left"""""""), almost as if they refuse to acknowledge that they're in the fasch club too, scratched or otherwise.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Nazi party vs Nazi collaborator party. Different, but both deserve the gallows.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Which side isn't again? Which side is actually against genocide? Oh wait! Neither are....